On Oct 28, 5:16 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.web.de> wrote: > Dotan Cohen schrieb: > > > > >> While I know that to be true in the general sense, from what I've > >> looked at Django and other frameworks it seems that the web frameworks > >> push the coder to use templates, not letting him near the HTML. > > >> For instance, I was looking for a class / framework that provided a > >> proven method of decoding cookies (setting them is no problem), > >> decoding POST and GET variables, escaping variables for safe entry > >> into MySQL, and other things. Django and the other frameworks seem to > >> force the user to use templates. I just want the functions, and to > >> print the HTML as stdout to the browser making the request. I had to > >> settle on PHP to do this, which admittedly is what PHP was invented to > >> do. However, for obvious reasons, I would have prefered to code in > >> Python. In fact, I still would. > > > I should probably expand on this: > > > How can I get an array with all the GET variables in Python? > > How can I get an array with all the POST variables in Python? > > How can I get an array with all the COOKIE variables in Python? > > How can I get the request URI path (everything after > >http://[www.?]example.com/)? > > > That's all I want: no templates and nothing between me and the HTML. > > The HTTP headers I can output to stdout myself as well. > > Again: if you insist on doing everything yourself - then of course any > library or framework isn't for you. > > But then do you deal with headers correctly? Do you respect character > encodings? Form-encodings? Is your generated HTML valid? Are > timestamp-formats generated according to RFCs for your cookies? Do you > parse content negotiation headers? > > I think you underestimate the task it is to make a webapplication good. > And even if not, what you will do is ... code your own webframework. > Because there is a lot of boilerplate otherwis. If that's a > learning-experience your after, fine. > > Besides, yes, you can get all these things nonetheless. You just don't > need them most of the time. > > And at least pylons/TG2 lets you return whatever you want instead, as a > string. Not via "print" though - which is simply only for CGI, and no > other means (e.g. mod_wsgi) of python-web-programming. > > Diez
notmm uses Python 2.6 and will probably work just fine with Python 3000. Cheers, Etienne P.S - We all don't think in the same box. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list