On Oct 30, 7:01 pm, erob <robillard.etie...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 28, 5:16 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de...@nospam.web.de> wrote: > > > > > Dotan Cohen schrieb: > > > >> While I know that to be true in the general sense, from what I've > > >> looked at Django and other frameworks it seems that the web frameworks > > >> push the coder to use templates, not letting him near the HTML. > > > >> For instance, I was looking for a class / framework that provided a > > >> proven method of decoding cookies (setting them is no problem), > > >> decoding POST and GET variables, escaping variables for safe entry > > >> into MySQL, and other things. Django and the other frameworks seem to > > >> force the user to use templates. I just want the functions, and to > > >> print the HTML as stdout to the browser making the request. I had to > > >> settle on PHP to do this, which admittedly is what PHP was invented to > > >> do. However, for obvious reasons, I would have prefered to code in > > >> Python. In fact, I still would. > > > > I should probably expand on this: > > > > How can I get an array with all the GET variables in Python? > > > How can I get an array with all the POST variables in Python? > > > How can I get an array with all the COOKIE variables in Python? > > > How can I get the request URI path (everything after > > >http://[www.?]example.com/)? > > > > That's all I want: no templates and nothing between me and the HTML. > > > The HTTP headers I can output to stdout myself as well. > > > Again: if you insist on doing everything yourself - then of course any > > library or framework isn't for you. > > > But then do you deal with headers correctly? Do you respect character > > encodings? Form-encodings? Is your generated HTML valid? Are > > timestamp-formats generated according to RFCs for your cookies? Do you > > parse content negotiation headers? > > > I think you underestimate the task it is to make a webapplication good. > > And even if not, what you will do is ... code your own webframework. > > Because there is a lot of boilerplate otherwis. If that's a > > learning-experience your after, fine. > > > Besides, yes, you can get all these things nonetheless. You just don't > > need them most of the time. > > > And at least pylons/TG2 lets you return whatever you want instead, as a > > string. Not via "print" though - which is simply only for CGI, and no > > other means (e.g. mod_wsgi) of python-web-programming. > > > Diez > > notmm uses Python 2.6 and will probably work just fine with Python > 3000. > > Cheers, > > Etienne > > P.S - We all don't think in the same box.
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