On 12/02/2013 07:22 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/2/2013 4:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
jmf is certainly a troll

No, he is a person who discovered a minor performance regression in the FSR, 
which we fixed. Unfortunately, he then
continued for a year with a strange troll-like anti-FSR crusade. But his posts 
in the Unicode handling thread were not
part of that. It seems to me that continually beating someone over the head 
with the past discourages changed behavior.
To me, the point of asking someone to 'stop' is to persuade them to stop. The 
reward for stopping should be to let the
issue go.

I remember it slightly differently, but you're right -- we should let it drop.


the coddling of trolls and help-vampires also makes the list an
unfriendly place to be.

I agree with the that as a statement, but not the implication. Was I 
hallucinating, or did you not recently participate
in the discussion and decision to stop coddling our most obnoxious 'troll' in 
the community?

I'm afraid I don't see the point you are trying to make. I'm against coddling those who refuse to learn and participate with respect to the rest of us, and I did vote to stop such coddling [1] of a certain troll. I don't see the discrepancy.

All that aside, thank you to you and the other moderators for your time and 
efforts.

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[1] Coddling can be an offensive word, and I wish to make clear that initial efforts to educate and help newcomers are appropriate and warranted. However, after some time has passed and the newcomer is no longer a newcomer and is still exhibiting rude and ignorant behavior, further attempts to help most likely won't, and that is when I would classify such attempts as coddling.

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~Ethan~
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