On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:22:57 PM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 at 18:01 Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
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> I think that the critical factor there is that it is all in the past tense.
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> Today, I believe, the vast majority of mathematicians fall into two camps:
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> (1) Those who just use numbers without worrying about defining them in some
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> deep or fundamental sense;
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> Probably. I'd say that worrying too much about the true essence of numbers is 
> just Platonism. Numbers are a construct (a very useful one). There are many 
> other constructs used within mathematics and there are numerous ways to 
> connect them or define them in terms of each other. Usually these are 
> referred to as "connections" or sometimes more formally as "isomorphisms" and 
> they can be useful but don't need to have any metaphysical meaning.

Philosophers-of-mathematics decry platonism.
However from my experience (I am not a professional mathematician, though
Ive known good ones) most practicing-mathematicians proceed on the assumption 
that they *discover* math and not that they *invent* it.
To me this says that though they may not know the meaning or spelling of 
platonism, they all layman-adhere to it.

tl;dr To me (as unprofessional a musician as mathematician) I find it arbitrary
that Newton *discovered* gravity whereas Beethoven *composed* the 9th symphony.
Maybe Beethoven was sent my God to write Ode-to-Joy and reunite Europe?
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