On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:14:24 +0100, Paul Moore wrote: > On 20 September 2017 at 13:58, alister via Python-list > <python-list@python.org> wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:40:17 -0400, leam hall wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Stephan Houben < >>> stephan...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Op 2017-09-19, Steven D'Aprano schreef <steve+comp.lang.python@ >>>> pearwood.info>: >>>> >>>> > There is a significant chunk of the Python community for whom "just >>>> > pip install it" is not easy, legal or even possible. For them, if >>>> > its not in the standard library, it might as well not even exist. >>>> >>>> But numpy *is* in the standard library, provided you download the >>>> correct version of Python, namely the one from: >>>> >>>> https://python-xy.github.io/ >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> >>> Many of us can't pip install; it's in the OS supplied vendor repo or >>> it doesn't go on the machines. >>> >>> Leam >> >> dnf install <package> >> or apt_get install <package> >> >> most of the mainstream modules seem to be there (certainly numpy) > > You're missing the point. A significant number of Python users work on > systems where: > > 1. They have no admin rights 2. Their corporate or other policies > prohibit installing 3rd party software without approval that is > typically difficult or impossible to get 3. Quite possibly the system > has no network access outside of the local intranet 4. The system admins > may not be able or willing to upgrade or otherwise modify the system > Python > > Writing code that works only with stdlib modules is basically the only > option in such environments. > > Having said that, I don't advocate that everything be in the stdlib > because of this. A lot of things (such as numpy) belong as 3rd party > packages. But that doesn't mean that "get XYZ off PyPI" (or "install XYZ > alternative Python distribution/version") is a viable solution to every > problem. > > Paul
not missing the point you said previously "it's in the OS supplied vendor repo or it doesn't go on the machines." dnf/yum or apt_get install form the "vendor supplied repo" I fully understand that even this may require various hoops to be jumped through before it can happen -- Minnie Mouse is a slow maze learner. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
