On 26Nov2017 10:00, nospam.Martin Schöön <martin.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
Den 2017-11-26 skrev Cameron Simpson <c...@cskk.id.au>:
On 25Nov2017 08:34, rusi <rustompm...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 9:45:07 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
The problem with mixing repository-installed packages with pip-installed
packages is that there's always a chance a Debian update will overwrite
a pip package, possibly with an older version.  Or a pip-installed
package might bring in a new version that's not compatible with some
debian-installed package, breaking something.

On (recent?) debian/ubuntu pip seems to use the 'user-scheme'
which means pip runs without sudo and installs in ~/.local/lib
So I dont believe literal overwriting would occur

Though the point should be made that one should run pip as oneself, and try
to
avoid doing it as the root user (including avoiding sudo). Many
UNIX/Linux/etc
users believe "installs" should be done as root, and in this case that is
easily avoided, with all its potential for damage to the vendor supplied
environment.

Hmm, I seem to remember not being able to install packages with pip unless I
did sudo pip.

And this is exactly what I'm warning about. Many Linux users see some kind of failure and just stick sudo on the front of the command. It is almost always the wrong things to do, leading to effects in the OS install area instead of being safely contained within one's home directory or work area.

Instead of reaching straight for sudo, look at pip's manual or help. You will find that:

 pip install --user ...

installs modules local to your home directory, avoiding troublesome installs into the OS area.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson <c...@cskk.id.au> (formerly c...@zip.com.au)
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