On 10/12/17 07:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Steve D'Aprano > <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:01 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Steve D'Aprano >>> <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >>>> Remember the context here: we're replying to a thread discussing somebody >>>> who is running Ubuntu with a GUI desktop environment. Of course there are >>>> *some* Linux systems which don't run a GUI at all, but you can't >>>> double-click on files on such systems, and they aren't Ubuntu, so they >>>> aren't relevant. >>> >>> Been a long time since I had an Ubuntu, but is it really the case that >>> you can't install Ubuntu without a GUI? >> >> I mispoke -- I meant something like "they aren't whatever Ububtu GUI the OP >> has installed". >> >> There is, apparently, headless Ubuntu, but it isn't clear to me whether they >> install X (or Mir, Wayland or some other alternative) or not. E.g. this: >> >> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/ubuntu-gnome-vnc-headless-server/ >> >> seems to suggest to me that X.org is already installed, I can see X utils >> being installed as a recommended package but I couldn't spot X being added as >> a dependency. So my *guess* is that even headless Ubuntu server includes an X >> server. (Or possibly Mir.) > > Or that installing a VNC server automatically installs X11 or > equivalent. That's what I'd expect, though it's entirely possible that > a headless server still gets certain libraries installed.
Indeed, VNC pulls in X11: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/vnc4server If you're interested in what the bare-bones Ubuntu server install contains, you can look it up here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-server In other news: in case you hadn't heard, Mir is dead. Mark Shuttleworth killed it this summer. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list