On 2020-05-29 06:27:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:20 AM Peter J. Holzer <hjp-pyt...@hjp.at> wrote: > > On 2020-05-19 05:59:30 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > PEP 8 is a style guide for the Python standard library. It is the > > > rules you must comply with if you are submitting a patch *to Python > > > itself*. Nobody ever requires you to comply with it for any other > > > code. > > > > That's obviously not true: Many companies and projects have a coding > > standard. Many of those coding standards will be based on or even > > identical to PEP 8. And as an employee or contributor you may be > > required to comply with it. Now you might argue that in this case you > > aren't required to comply with PEP 8, but with the coding standard of > > your company, but I would consider that excessive nitpickery. > > > > The OP said: > > My preference for using camelCase (in PEP 8, AKA mixedCase) is > > putting me at odds with my colleagues, who point to PEP 8 as "the > > rules". > > > > This smells like the incredibly strong misconception that PEP 8 needs > to govern every line of Python code ever written, or else it's "bad > code". This thread wouldn't have been started if it had been any other > style guide that the company had been chosen, because then it's > obvious that the choice is the company's. It's only when PEP 8 is > considered to be some sort of universal standard that we get this kind > of discussion.
It may be the case in this specific instance (although I don't know, as I don't work for the OP's company and don't know his colleagues). I don't think it is generally the case. When a company introduces a coding standard, I think "just use PEP 8" is a very reasonable choice (it's not inherently better or worse than any other style, but just by being familiar to a lot of Python programmers it is likely to elicit less resistance and bike-shedding). So this might lead to the following exchange during a code review: A: Please don't use camelCase for variables. It's against our coding style. B: Why don't we allow camelCase for variables? A: Because PEP 8 doesn't allow it. B: Why doesn't PEP 8 allow it? A: Uh, ask the PEP 8 authors. At which point B becomes the OP of this thread. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer | Story must make more sense than reality. |_|_) | | | | | h...@hjp.at | -- Charles Stross, "Creative writing __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | challenge!"
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