I do not believe my proposal has reached—or will reach—consensus. It seems there are some who still value the linkage between the two, and the S/N ratio is indeed low enough it doesn't warrant changing from the status quo. Thanks everyone for the consideration and discussion.
Paul On Thu, 2021-05-06 at 18:49 +0100, Stestagg wrote: > Where's this discussion going? > > Let's not get too caught up on definitions or the sizes of everyone's > respective .. newsgroups. > > Which of the practically possible options are best for this list <-> > newsgroup setup? > > Thanks > > Steve > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:47 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> wrote: > > > On 2021-05-06, Richard Damon <rich...@damon-family.org> wrote: > > > On 5/6/21 9:44 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: > > > > Sounds like nearly all moderated lists/forums then. > > > > > > Then perhaps you have never been on a real Moderated mailing list > > > or > > > Forum. > > > > Ah, the "no true scotsforum" argument ;-) > > > > > > > While you could setup a robo-moderator to do a similar thing, > > > > > Usenet > > > > > posters will not have 'pre-subscribed' before posting, and > > > > > the From > > > > > address is no where near as relaible as invalid From > > > > > addresses ARE > > > > > allowed, and since the message comes via a NNTP injection > > > > > source relay, > > > > > non-verifiable. This make the job a LOT harder. > > > > It makes essentially no difference at all. > > > It sure does. Have you every actually TRIED to run a moderated > > > Usenet > > > group, or know anyone who has, especially a somewhat busy group? > > > > As I already mentioned, I am a moderator of a Usenet group. > > > > > I am presuming that the current gateway isn't bringing all the > > > messages > > > from Usenet into the mailing list. This is obvious as we don't > > > see the > > > noise here. The Cabal that runs the 'Big-8' doesn't really care > > > what > > > sort of filters are added at such a gateway. > > > > > > To setup a moderated group that defines similar filters in place > > > for > > > messages getting to Usenet, particularly for a group intended to > > > replace > > > a 'reasonably' working unmoderated group, is likely not going to > > > be > > > viewed well. > > > > Have you every actually TRIED to run a moderated Usenet group, or > > know > > anyone who has, especially a somewhat busy group? Of *course* > > moderated > > groups put filters on what they receive, what do you think group > > moderation is *for* if not to block things? > > -- > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list