On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM dn via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote:
> That said, there is nothing to be gained by upsetting people... > I misquoted the relevant section from Chris' answer, i wanted to quote: *I'm not saying that the previous situation was GOOD, but I'm far fromsure that the current situation is any better - look at the argumentsregarding branch naming, which completely sidelined all technicalconsiderations in favour of one single political motivation basedheavily on the decisions of people from one specific country.* More about changes like the above. Nevertheless, when the Linux Foundation announced a discussion looking > into such (largely) US-concerning terms as Master/Slave in computing > contexts, the same newsletter blatantly localised events which were > publicised, and intended to draw, world-wide participation. > (and has yet to respond to my observation of same) > > The ISO 8601 International Standard recommends usage of UTC "Universal > Time" as a means for communicating times and dates in an international > or multinational context, ie "interchange". (So the LF's advert of a > Rust seminar commencing at a time listed in "CEST" is unfriendly and > somewhat inconsiderate to people outside Europe) > - example to prove we're not 'US-bashing', even though similar US-based > examples would be very easy to quote. > > ISO 8601 was updated with 'Part 2' in 2019. It deals with "common > expressions". Many of which are meaningless, or even misleading to > others. In this case, an invitation to "Spring Internships" seemed six > months early to me. However, it is 'now' to anyone in the US. Such > seasonal terms only apply to the temperate zones of this planet - > neither the tropics nor the poles have such seasons, plus many cultures > use other terms for specific times of year, eg "Monsoon Season". Thus, > are not appropriate for use amongst an international audience. > The examples you quote are very tangible, clearly defined and easily associated Master-slave has obvious meanings, CEST is associated with a particular area and preferring another timezone would put other people at disadvantages. The iso part 2 saute a l'oeil (triggers your sensors, litt. jumps at your eye), spring automatically spells confusions as spring goes in the same direction as timezones I was pointing out to politically related changes whose obviousness and correctness is not gauged from empirical analysis of elements in front of you but requires the further step of knowing what the American people deem as right or wrong not in the sense of morals directly but more of how the country and people live. Let's say the word mouse. A mouse is a mouse, the rodent. But now some bad people take the mouse as their symbol. They put the mouse on their bags, robes, curtains, laptops, pens thereby demonising the mouse. Now mouse lovers are also associated to these people as well as people who care for mouse wellness in laboratories. This happens in Fake Country X. Now some in a country studied English and learnt that a mouse is a four tiny- footed creature with a tail. Being a mouse lover the person decided to name a Python conference PyMouse. Now people start dramatising the situation and label the person as someone not to be collaborated with, someone to be banned from all Py affiliated enterprises. Well that is very bad to begin with. A mouse remains a mouse and the bad folks using the mouse as their symbol exists in majority only in Fake Country X. Someone outside Fake Country X never had the chance to study or imbibe himself with or come across the association of this with that. You presented some cases which are very valid and correct, but i was referring to changes which are not so blatant and obvious. Cases which are wrong for some people but right for others not because of moral correctness directly but more because of associations present in a particular country. Kind Regards, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer about <https://compileralchemy.github.io/> | blog <https://www.pythonkitchen.com> github <https://github.com/Abdur-RahmaanJ> Mauritius -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list