On 1/1/2024 8:19 AM, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/1/2024 6:02 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
Am 30.12.2023 um 04:04 schrieb Mike Dewhirst via Python-list:
I had assumed the OP had installed Python from the Microsoft shop and
that's where py.exe must have come from.
In fact I didn't say in my post that I always get Python from
python.org. When I started to use the language there was no Python
from any Microsoft shop (I'm not sure there was a Microsoft shop, it
was in the last millenium, Python 1.5 or 1.6). So I tend to forget
that possible download source.
But in all this thread I didn't see a single explanation for my
current situation: one and the same shebang line works on Windows 10 /
Python 3.11 and doesn't work on Windows 11 / Python 3.12. I suspect
Windows, because a change in the way Python 3.12 uses shebang lines
should be visible in the documentation.
Happy new year to all!
Sibylle
Happy New Year!
I speculated that the shebang line didn't work on Windows 10 either, but
you didn't realize it because the file associations were right to launch
".py" programs with the right version of Python. When the newer version
of Python got installed, the default Python program to use, was not
updated correctly, and the shebang line still has nothing to do with the
launch failure. This could happen if other the older install went into
Program Files, while the newer one went into
%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Programs\Python.
This was backed up with all of 5 minutes of experimenting on my own
computer, on which Windows launches ".py" programs with an old install
of Python 3.9.9, but the py launcher launches Python 3.12 by default.
Since I am avoiding Windows 11, I can't try anything on it, so my
thoughts above may not be relevant.
The Python docs for 3.12.1 cover shebang lines at
https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html
"If the first line of a script file starts with #!, it is known as a
“shebang” line. Linux and other Unix like operating systems have native
support for such lines and they are commonly used on such systems to
indicate how a script should be executed. This launcher allows the same
facilities to be used with Python scripts on Windows and the examples
above demonstrate their use.
To allow shebang lines in Python scripts to be portable between Unix and
Windows, this launcher supports a number of ‘virtual’ commands to
specify which interpreter to use. The supported virtual commands are:
/usr/bin/env
/usr/bin/python
/usr/local/bin/python
python
For example, if the first line of your script starts with
#! /usr/bin/python
The default Python will be located and used. As many Python scripts
written to work on Unix will already have this line, you should find
these scripts can be used by the launcher without modification. If you
are writing a new script on Windows which you hope will be useful on
Unix, you should use one of the shebang lines starting with /usr."
But
"The /usr/bin/env form of shebang line has one further special property.
Before looking for installed Python interpreters, this form will search
the executable PATH for a Python executable matching the name provided
as the first argument. This corresponds to the behaviour of the Unix env
program, which performs a PATH search. If an executable matching the
first argument after the env command cannot be found, but the argument
starts with python, it will be handled as described for the other
virtual commands. The environment variable PYLAUNCHER_NO_SEARCH_PATH may
be set (to any value) to skip this search of PATH.
Shebang lines that do not match any of these patterns are looked up in
the [commands] section of the launcher’s .INI file. This may be used to
handle certain commands in a way that makes sense for your system. The
name of the command must be a single argument (no spaces in the shebang
executable), and the value substituted is the full path to the
executable (additional arguments specified in the .INI will be quoted as
part of the filename)."
Here's how to find out what program Windows thinks it should use to run
a ".py" file. In a console:
C:\Users\tom>assoc .py
.py=Python.File
C:\Users\tom>ftype Python.file
Python.file="C:\Windows\py.exe" "%L" %*
If your ".py" files are associated to the py.exe launcher, as mine are,
then the launcher may try to use your shebang line and you need to make
sure there aren't any spaces where there shouldn't be.
If your ".py" files are not associated with py.exe, the shebang line
probably won't be used for anything.
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