Andreas wrote:

IMO assignment policy contradicts the spirit of free software.
It shows very unpleasant damages in mind
already. Copyright is an important issue now, taken
very seriously. Before code was exchanged freely, as
Richard told nicely the very beginnings of the
movement. Meanwhile we came to the opposite: jealously
and meticulous line counting habits.

Assignment stifles cooperation rather then being helpful.

<snip>
My offer was and is: let's cooperate. There are enough
things to do beside pure code-writing. Nor should the
assignment nor the GPL-versions-question block
cooperation completely. We must respect hindrances as
it exists, that's right.

I find that, in all this discussion, only Andreas and I seem to be talking 
about the big picture rather than debating legal points.

From my pov, I volunteer to help a worthy effort to make an emacs mode that I 
frequently use better, and suddenly I'm being menaced by
a representative of a powerful organization, telling me to ceases and desist 
immediately or face potential legal action. This scenario
rings a bell.

This is from wikipedia on rms' page:
"In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the hacker culture that Stallman thrived in 
began to fragment. To prevent software from
being used on their competitors' computers, most manufacturers stopped 
distributing source code and began using copyright
and restrictive software licenses to limit or prohibit copying and 
redistribution."

Hmmm...... "...began using copyright and restrictive software licenses to limit or 
prohibit copying and redistribution."


Dave said in a previous email that it was bizarre that I should try to lecture 
him on the original impetus that
motivated those who started the open source movement. But from where I sit, 
some of those involved have lost their way.
Whether it's Microsoft menacing me with lawyers so I don't use their code, or 
GNU.org menacing me with lawyers so I don't
use their code, is irrelevant. It all looks the same from here.

In my first reply to Dave I asked whether it would be possible to cooperate in 
this endeavor. Andreas just asked again. Personally,
I don't really care whether any product of a 'merge' effort is distributed with 
Emacs. If you have to get it from python.org, that's fine
with me, and really, not a bad idea. Maybe we can agree up-front that a new 
python-mode.el won't be distributed with GNU Emacs and join forces
to write a better mode for python users with the 'assignment' issue out of the 
way once and for all.

Bev




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