> > Not sure I understand. :S Calling a promise as a remote procedure call?
Ah I was referring to your question above that sparked the RPC discussion: > I’m thinking promises are good for in-process asynchronism and less so for > the distributed kind, due to the overhead of making a remote request. > Are you using it mainly for RPC? On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Marcus Ottosson <konstrukt...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Pros RPC: >>> >>> - Familiar, little initial learning curve >>> >>> Not sure what the learning curve is, unless you are referring to > specific products that come with different degrees of set up to implement > the RPC > > >> >>> >>> Cons RPC: >>> >>> - Hockey-stick complexity (easy at first, difficult at last (e.g. >>> debugging when routes extend past point-to-point)) >>> >>> Why is this hard to debug? It would be the same as a message being sent. > It goes to some other endpoint. All that is different is the interface for > which the call is made. > > >> >>> >>> But then again, if you made an RPC function called send() which is >>> oneway and takes some data structure, again what is the difference between >>> the two? >>> >>> Yes, precisely. What is the difference? That’s what I’m looking to find >>> out. :) >>> >> The question was rhetorical. I don't see the difference other than some > sugar on the call site. > > >> >>> >>> >>> On 31 May 2014 22:24, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've done RPC, and I have done message passing. I don't really think >>>> about it as one being better than the other. I just think about it as the >>>> right one for the job. But like I said, depending on the implementation, >>>> RPC can really be just message passing with syntactic sugar that makes the >>>> interface more like a function call as opposed to a send operation with a >>>> data structure. If you aren't waiting on the result, how different are the >>>> two really? I get that it can be more flexible to not have predefined >>>> interfaces for all your RPC functions, whereas you can just work with a >>>> single send() and pass data structures in message passing. But then again, >>>> if you made an RPC function called send() which is oneway and takes some >>>> data structure, again what is the difference between the two? The RPC >>>> version just has a predefined contract about what send() is and what it >>>> accepts. >>>> >>>> If my system is primarily concerned with just sending oneway messages >>>> all the time to be queued/routed/dispatched, then I would probably lean >>>> more towards a pure zeromq lower-level approach. But I can't talk about it >>>> in a generalized conversation, with a generalized application, about which >>>> is best. I think both ways work great. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Marcus Ottosson <konstrukt...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, I take it you are both familiar with working with RPC, but are >>>>> you also familiar working without? >>>>> >>>>> I think to make a fair judgement, one would have to at least try both >>>>> to an equal degree. 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