On Mar 30, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote:

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks François

Not sure I want to get into eclipse just now but I referenced it for
further study.

I seem to remember blowing by SubEthaEdit already, but I went back and
checked it out with Python IDE and it is indeed a must have basic text
editor.  I was running into some problems between IDLE and PythonIDE
and text editors with end-of-line conventions and I don't see that
here.

Warning: SubEthaEdit does not enforce a line ending convention. That's probably OK for Python source code, but can be a headache in other contexts.

Well I only checked it out with a py script for PythonIDE where it left a usable script, but now I also checked it with IDLE and there is the line ending problem. The same problem I was having between PythonIDE and IDLE with other text editors so I guess (relative to Python scripts) the real stumbling block is between PythonTDE and IDLE - i.e. don't use both.

I think I'll opt for using neither IDE and concentrate on SPE (as soon as it's checked out for the new wxPython). Where I'll end up eventually ???, maybe just the terminal like Bob and keep things organized with Leo (I usually start planning with a pseudo code framework anyway).

Thanks for the heads-up on SubEthaEdit - I don't like hidden source problems :~)

Example: set SubEthaEdit to enter \n when you type <return> (the unix
line ending convention). Then paste in text from any standard Mac app
and notice that the pasted text uses \r as a line ending.

SubEthaEdit is the only text editor I've seen that has this bizarre
behavior and I stopped using it because of that (it was causing
mysterious failures when checking in svn comments, which is how I
stumbled across the problem).

I recommend TextWrangler as a "must-have" free editor, though I hate the
find/replace dialog box enough to not use it for coding. TextMate looks
promising but is not yet polished. Pepper is superb but no longer
supported. XCode takes forever to launch.



I'll revisit TextWrangler. I had looked at XCode and (probably because of my Mac & Python inexperience) didn't see it as the sandbox I was looking for. XCode does launch instantly on my Mac though - but then everything does except the Adobe apps than scan all the fonts at startup.


-- Russell


Thanks again, LeeC

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