On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Kevin Walzer replies to Charles Hartman: >> Charles Hartman wrote: >>> Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere: >>> >>> I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be >>> necessary for >>> people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all >>> this. >>> Great to learn as much as possible, yes, always -- but to require >>> people, just to get started, to learn about shells and the Terminal, >>> which they may never have dealt with before, even if they have a >>> variety >>> of Mac programming experience, is not to put Python on its best >>> footing. >>> >> >> It *isn't* necessary to do all that. Just use the vendor-provided >> Python, type "python" in your shell, and you are ready to go. > > And where does the newbie find that info? > > Here's what a newbie sees when they follow the MacPython link on > www.python.org: > > (in bold) "Download Python for Macintosh" > > implying that you need to *do* that! Followed by: > > "Through version 2.3, Python for the Macintosh was maintained by Jack > Jansen. See Jack's MacPython Page." > > The last updates here were done in 2004. > > None of the python.org pages point to pythonmac.org. And > pythonmac.org > is still organized around the idea that you have to install Python on > a Mac before using it. Jack Jansen's now-out-of-date pages lead the > parade on pythonmac.org.
So file some bugs. You know where the sourceforge tracker is. > The next problem comes in when you want something out of the stdlib, > like PIL or Numeric. Everybody packaging for MacOS X isn't packaging > for the 2.3.5 supplied Python; instead, there are package managers and > Python2.4Fixes and eggs and nobody-quite-knows-what to install and > master if you want to use one of these additional tools. Not really > true, of course, but that's what it looks like. I've said it a hundred times -- if someone wants to be responsible for making pythonmac.org's content more friendly then I'm totally willing to dish out access. I don't have time or interest for it. -bob _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
