Charles, I love the fact that you've taken the time to think through this! Hurrah!
However... > Somebody who comes idly to the idea of programming in Python, and > finds the pythonmac page, will be happy if the result is an > afternoon's work that ends in a "hello world," possibly in a window. > Using my own arbitrary preferences, that would entail: > > 1. downloading & installing Bob's framework > 2. downloading & installing TigerPython24Fix > 3. adding /usr/local/bin to the PATH > 4. downloading & installing wxPython > 5. downloading & installing [fill in name of IDE] > 6. starting to browse how-to-program sites and writing some bits I think this is a wonderful example of the mindset that's wrong with the current situation. An afternoon's work? Who would want to do that just to fool around, when Python is *pre-installed* on the Mac? Who wants to open windows? Why is a GUI automatically necessary? And if it is, all you need is already there on 10.4, in three minutes: 1) Click on Applications/Utilities/Terminal. 2) In the terminal window, enter the following line: % pythonw 3) You will see a prompt ">>>". At the prompt, enter the following line: >>> print "Hello, World!" and you will see "Hello, World!" written back to you. 4) To do this in a window, enter the following lines at the ">>>" prompt: >>> import wx >>> app = wx.PySimpleApp() >>> frame = wx.Frame(None, -1, "Hello World").Show(1) >>> app.MainLoop() That's it! Maybe with a pointer to the wxPythonWiki getting started page (which I stole this code from): http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/Getting_20Started#head-bc009992ceb90dddb7eb3db953e25d1792da2cdd *Don't* deprecate the Apple pre-installed Python! Rejoice in it! And then hint that even better things are available in 2.4.x... Once a newbie decides to get serious about Python, *then* they can think about upgrading their installation. Bill _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
