I feel a big need of a detailed help page to run /shared/pywikipedia/compat
into Labs, I painfully run rewrite but there are too many new issues to
manage (labs vs toolserver, git vs svn, rewrite vs trunk, recent changes
.... all together, is far above my limited skill, it has been an endless
nightmare)

Alex brollo


2013/8/14 Merlijn van Deen <valhall...@arctus.nl>

> Hi Amir,
>
> On 14 August 2013 16:22, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As you probably know We had a workshop
>> http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/DevCamp/Schedule on Wikimania's
>> DevCamp about using PWB for people who are interested.
>>
> Cool!
>
>
>> but It was a very big problem that installation of PWB is not
>> user-friendly (and It's worse when people try to install rewrite instead of
>> trunk) The main cause as far as we faced during the workshop (on different
>> computers) is dependencies.
>>
>
> This surprises me, as this was not an issue during the Amsterdam hackathon
> - and we used rewrite! However, we used a nightly instead of git, which
> might explain at least part of the difference. What was the audience (how
> experienced with wikipedia as writer / AWB / ..., running windows or linux,
> etc), and how did they install and configure pwb?
>
> Maarten (multichill) has suggested we change setup.py and
>> generate_user_config.py and make a auto-generated list of needed
>> dependencies (based on OS or other things) and ask user when he/she wants
>> to install that which one you need! and install it right away. another
>> suggestion (my idea) is an example:
>>
> This is certainly an option. Maybe Dr.Trigon can suggest something in this
> direction - the current method of downloading dependencies/externals when
> needed is reasonable, I think.
>
> Alternatively, I'd like to suggest nightlies as main distribution method.
> At least the core nightly is completely self-contained: it has translations
> *and* httplib2 (the only required external library). For most people, that
> would be the easiest way of installing pywikibot.
>
> When someone doesn't install i18n submodule. Codes breaks (error that says
>> "import i18n, there is no module named "i18n"" or something like that) but
>> we have to catch this error and ask a question and ask do you want to
>> install i18n submodule? and maybe a user doesn't want to install it (just
>> wants to run it in English WP) We have to let the user run the code.
>>
> It's impossible to run a bot without i18n submodule, because *all*
> translations are in the translation file, also the English version! The
> code only knows the key (e.g. 'commons-file-moved', not
> '[[:File:%(localfile)s|File]] moved to
> [[:commons:File:%(commonsfile)s|commons]].').
>
> Best,
> Merlijn
>
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