Yes, you're right.
The motivation is I want to implement a device
called EC which is a notion from laptop for QEMU,
EC has some main functions, like keyboard, mouse,
low-speed device control(I2C), special ACPI space,
 i8042 and ps2 mouse has been done,  power control
was left, so I tried to add this.
so, Andreas,
do you know this  chip for laptop?
any suggestions for this?
Thanks!


2013/4/10 Andreas Färber <afaer...@suse.de>

> Am 10.04.2013 02:09, schrieb li guang:
> > 在 2013-04-09二的 13:06 +0200,Paolo Bonzini写道:
> >> Il 09/04/2013 10:26, li guang ha scritto:
> >>>> qemu_system_suspend_request, qemu_register_suspend_notifier
> >>>>    for S0->S3
> >>>>
> >>>> qemu_system_wakeup_request, qemu_register_wakeup_notifier
> >>>>    for S3->S0
> >>>>
> >>>> qemu_system_powerdown_request, qemu_register_powerdown_notifier
> >>>>    for Sx->S5
> >>>>
> >>>> and the reset mechanism for S5->S0.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, I'm trying to supersede these functions
> >>> by my power chip emulation.
> >>
> >> Then I explained in my other message why this is wrong.  The API may
> >> well be "bad" (if so, please explain why), but at least it is the right
> >> tool to model this.  QEMU models abstract concepts (memory, timers,
> >> powerdown) with APIs, not with devices.
> >>
> >
> > It's probably not 'bad', just only not native, because real hardware
> > does not do thing that way, and also, this power chip is not purely
> > conceptual, it just try to integrate jobs of power control from
> > different platform.
> > of course, I can model this power chip as real hardware which exists
> > in specific platform.
>
> Li Guang, I think your problem is a conceptual one: QEMU does not do a
> system simulation, it does a system emulation. Thus if a chip is hidden
> from software and not directly accessed in terms of registers from guest
> software, then we don't model it as a device but call some API functions
> from where it is supposed to show effects (keyboard controller device
> MemoryRegionOps, TCG instruction, monitor command, ...).
>
> Thus we are reluctant to accept a QOM Device that is neither exposed to
> the guest nor uses any QOM concepts like inheritance AFAICS. Especially
> when the advantage of doing so is not well explained.
>
> Andreas
>
> > can we just feel happy with current implementation and don't want
> > to try other things?  :-)
> > or do you consider this totally wrong for direction?
>
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