чт, 16 мар. 2023 г., 13:56 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <phi...@linaro.org>:
> On 16/3/23 11:22, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > чт, 16 мар. 2023 г., 12:17 Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianas...@gmail.com > > <mailto:randrianas...@gmail.com>>: > > чт, 16 мар. 2023 г., 11:31 Thomas Huth <th...@redhat.com > > <mailto:th...@redhat.com>>: > > On 16/03/2023 08.36, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > > > On 16/3/23 08:17, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > >> чт, 16 мар. 2023 г., 10:05 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé > > <phi...@linaro.org <mailto:phi...@linaro.org> > > >> <mailto:phi...@linaro.org <mailto:phi...@linaro.org>>>: > > >> On 16/3/23 01:57, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > >> > Looking at https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0 > > <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0> > > >> <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0 > > <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0>> > > >> > <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0 > > <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0> > > >> <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0 > > <https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/8.0>>> > > >> > > > >> > === > > >> > System emulation on 32-bit x86 and ARM hosts has been > > deprecated. > > >> The > > >> > QEMU project no longer considers 32-bit x86 and ARM > > support for > > >> system > > >> > emulation to be an effective use of its limited > > resources, and thus > > >> > intends to discontinue. > > > > Still, pushing users into endless hw upgrade is no fun: > > > > > https://hackaday.com/2023/02/28/repurposing-old-smartphones-when-reusing-makes-more-sense-than-recycling/ > < > https://hackaday.com/2023/02/28/repurposing-old-smartphones-when-reusing-makes-more-sense-than-recycling/ > > > > > > note e-waste and energy consumption > > > > This graph does not make me happy: > > > > > https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-energy-substitution?time=earliest..2021 > < > https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-energy-substitution?time=earliest..2021 > > > > > > Note this paradox too > > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox > > <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox> > > > > >> [...] I also ran qemu-system-ppc on Huawei Matepad T8 (32 > > bit Android, > > >> too) for emulating old mac os 9. Yes, I can wait 10 min per > > guest boot. > > >> Fedora 36 armhf boots even slower on emulation! > > > > Yes, but for such scenarios, you can also use older versions of > > QEMU, you > > don't need the latest and greatest shiny QEMU version. > > Thomas answer still applies: if you can use QEMU v8.0.0 to emulate > macOS 9 on your Huawei Matepad T8 with 32-bit Android, why worry > about trying to use future QEMU versions? > Because Termux (only one currently supported distro for bare Android, as far as I know, everything else either unsupported or run under it, with some space penalty due to not using Android's libraries) will update qemu As Fast As Possible, being rolling release. Again, I as maintainer/developer (due to our real developer being dead from road incident) of cinelerra-gg I only can recommend to try your favourite projects in somewhat constrained environment, I tweaked our build system quite heavily simply because I was forced by device's constrains. Also, for CI thing may be lessen compiler optimization levels at least for some runs? And/or tweak ccache compression .... >
