Hi Antonio, I think it is more about having consistency for the platform than anything else. We want the user to find the application familiar. The death-knell of many an OS X application on review sites is how non-Mac-like the application feels. Users expect the menubar to exist and to provide a means of navigating standard application operations.
Developers will provide their own customization in different formats. Microsoft Office has their "ribbon" interface that provides "organized" drop-downs and formatting elements outside of the menubar, but you are able to do most of the same stuff by navigating the menus and options therein. http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Office-for-Mac-ribbon-default-1024x614.png I think we can achieve the customization desired while maintaining the HIG for OSX. Cheers, John On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Antonio Locandro <antoniolocan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I am having a second look at the menus and can I ask why would you want to > crowd the menus with the same actions you already have icons for in toolbars? > > e.g. > > Edit menu has all the same tools as the Advanced Editing Toolbar (I highly > doubt users doing serious editing would use menus instead of icons) > Layer menu has all this add layer types the same as Manage Layer Toolbar > (would look better with just an icon that opens a file dialog to whatever > data you need, an universal add data button type) > > IMHO it seems a waste of space and makes things crowded > > > > Ing. Antonio Locandro > Tegucigalpa, Honduras > +504 9503 5747 > Need a GPS map for Central America, Asia or South America / Necesitas un mapa > GPS para Centro America, Asia o Sur America > > > > > From: madman...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:07:58 +1000 > To: cust...@westnet.com.au > CC: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] 'File' versus 'Project' > > Ramon, > > I would agree with those points. In fact I think the menu structure as is > doesn't make much sense and the Edit menu should be renamed to Feature/s. > > What does Edit mean: > > - Edit Layer > - Edit Feature > - Edit Project > > If you look at all the tools in the Edit menu they are all related to the > current feature or features. The undo and redo actions should be moved to > the layer menu. > > Here are my thoughts on the Layer menu: > > http://i.imgur.com/oYO55Qz.png > > Moving the Add xxx Layer to the project menu would mean you follow these > actions when creating a new project: > > Project -> New > Project -> Add xxx Layer > > Change the style > > Layer -> Properties > > That is a more logical flow IMO then currently what is there. > > Thoughts? > > - Nathan > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Ramon Andiñach <cust...@westnet.com.au> > wrote: > > On 24/04/2013, at 05:55 , Ramon Andiñach wrote: > > > > > On 24/04/2013, at 04:28 , John C. Tull wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I was having some discussion on IRC today with Tim and Larry about the > >> recent change to the menu in trunk. Before, the menu used "File" and that > >> was changed to "Project". My position is that it does not seem Mac-like, > >> whether or not a QGIS document resides in the filesystem as a .qgs file or > >> if your "Project" is fed from a database, something apparently planned for > >> the future of QGIS. > >> > >> I'd be interested in feedback from other Mac users on this. I'm flexible > >> to the change, but wanted to vet this and see if anyone else had a strong > >> opinion one way or the other. Please make it clear if you are a Mac OS X > >> user or not. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> John > > > > Interesting. I'd say this is going to look as odd at home on my mac as at > > work on their windows box. No file menu - that's going to look very > > unfamiliar. > > > > That said, it's a good name. It does describe what's in there - those > > commands work on the project-file not a layer-file. > > > > -ramon. > > Ok. I've been standing at the bottom of a large-ish hole today, so if this > sounds like a dumb idea that's my excuse. > > Could we move Layer across next to Project? > > > Some reasoning. > 1. If we're abandoning File in favour of Project, then there's possibly no > reason to retain Edit next to it either. Other than historical ones. > 2. Project and Layer are largely about opening, closing, saving (and other > similar things) files. Project files in one menu and Layers (vectors, > rasters, DB, etc) in the other. > 3. Then you have a more logical progression from left to right about how to > use QGIS. (Open stuff, change stuff) > > -ramon. > (OK, 1. is not so good, but it does open the door to ask questions!) > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > > > _______________________________________________ Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-developer mailing list > Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
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