Hi guys,
I agree with Antonio on both counts.  With the layers panel on the left it 
seems more natural to have the navigation toolbar on the right side of the 
window.  
And yes, if it is possible to have a titlebar on floating toolbars that would 
make it much easier to close toolbars you don't want (sometimes it isn't at all 
obvious which toolbar you are looking at, so you have to go through turning 
them on and off one at a time until you find the right one).

Also, I think this has been suggested previously, but personally I don't think 
the File or the Manage Layers toolbars should be on by default.  They aren't 
like some of the other toolbars which you need to frequently switch between 
different tools, they contain functions which users naturally look for in the 
right place in the menu, and in the case of the Manage Layers toolbar I suspect 
that even for experienced users it is much faster to find the right tool in the 
layer menu than it is to figure out which icon in the toolbar is the one they 
want.

Regards,
Alister


> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:40:23 -0600
> From: antoniolocandro <antoniolocan...@hotmail.com>
> To: lar...@dakotacarto.com, madman...@gmail.com
> Cc: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Toolbar and Panel defaults
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> 
> Could we add the possibility to close toolbars by undocking them and
> hitting an x in the window
> 
> I prefer the right for navigation than left
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Sent from Samsung tabletLarry Shaffer <lar...@dakotacarto.com> wrote:Hi
> > Nathan,
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Nathan Woodrow <madman...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Having the nav toolbar on the side would be ideal if you could dock it on
> > > the right side of the layers panel. ?I'm not a fan of having to go all the
> > > way over the layer panel to access the navigation tools.
> >
> > That's a very good point. What about the Navigation toolbar on the right,
> > with the Plugin toolbar filling the empty space at right on the first row
> > of horizontal toolbars?
> >
> > Here's my reasoning. Nav tools are quickly accessible, and when a new user
> > downloads/installs a plugin, there is already space to show it (assuming
> > that plugin loads a tool button into the Plugins toolbar). Then the user
> > can move toolbars to their liking.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > [0] http://drive.dakotacarto.com/qgis/qgis_default_nav-tools-right.png
> > ?
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