My ignorant understanding of the (windows, right?) osgeo installer is that it 
downloads the bits you choose to install.  That's a bit complex for me to setup 
and maintain, and I would prefer to stick to standard OS X installer 
mechanisms.  I personally don't like installer installers (and stores for that 
matter), it makes for unecessary redownloading when installing on multiple 
computers, or reinstalling.

On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:48 AM, chris marx <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd just like to second the notion of an easier install for mac, an installer 
> would be great, and I'd really like it if, just like the osgeo installer, you 
> could specify that you want the oracle support installed too-
> 
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, William Kyngesburye <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> It should be possible, there is a build option to do that, though I haven't 
> fully tested it.  (GSL is bundled, I keep forgetting to ask someone to fix 
> the QGIS donwload page to remove that requirement.)
> 
> You would miss out on GDAL driver plugins, especially those with 
> non-GPL-compatible licenses.  They would still need separate installers, and 
> I would have to figure out where to install them.  Probably a QGIS 
> application support mirroring GDAL's, though it could share use of the normal 
> GDAL plugins.  Not in the application, not proper.
> 
> Required python modules are another thing that would be needed to be bundled. 
>  But users would still need to separately install other Python modules needed 
> by any QGIS plugins they installed.
> 
> About the installer vs. drag-n-drop: the installer is needed for compiling 
> the python scripts and creating the browser alias.  Drag-n-drop is not the 
> only "normal" installation method on OS X.  Installers are just as "normal".
> 
> Besides sharing GDAL with other software, GDAL and the Python modules are 
> very useful on their own, and I hear from many people who do use them 
> separately from and alongside QGIS.
> 
> One thing I'm not sure about, if QGIS knows to specify the GDAL resource dir 
> (datums, projections, ...) if it's not at the default location programmed 
> into GDAL.  And that goes for not only GDAL as a library, but the GDAL tools 
> and GDAL python.  (and other libraries that have resource dirs like PROJ and 
> geotiff)
> 
> I have considered an alternative: putting the current GDAL and Python module 
> installers on the QGIS installer disk image.  It's one download, but users 
> would still have to install each of them in the right order.
> 
> The problem with this, and another problem with the bundling method, is that 
> when any of the pieces change, I have to package the whole thing again (and 
> with bundling that means saving the compiled source and running the make 
> install again to do the bundling, and hope that something doesn't trigger a 
> recompile).  And the user has to download the whole monster again and install 
> it.
> 
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:20 AM, Andreas Neumann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wonder if we could offer "all in one" OSX QGIS packages in the future?
> >
> > The average OSX user is afraid of installing separate frameworks - even if 
> > its very simple. The normal install way on OSX is just drag and drop to the 
> > applications folder.
> >
> > Is there a particular technical reason why we cannot include GDAL/GSL into 
> > the QGIS package? I know that it wouldn't be shared with other FOSSGIS 
> > software then - but would this matter a lot?
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
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