All,

I’ve been having these same sorts of thoughts for a couple of years or so.  The 
local gov infrastructure seems like the right customer base to insert a 
providers model into.

bobb


> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Randal Hale <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I've contemplated the same thing. I've been working on an openforestry 
> template (which I'm failing to update on github) for that very reason (well 
> two - to see if I could do it and because I want to provide an alternative).
> 
> It's doable - it's just finding a coalition of the willing to start piecing 
> it together. ESRI does have a lock with all those models: small government, 
> utilities, forestry. Everyone gets roped in and then they get stuck. My 
> current shaking my head moment is the ESRI Parcel Fabric model. You get so 
> deep into that one on just the conversion work you'll never get out of it 
> cleanly (I assume - I've never tried).
> 
> QGIS is the desktop component to make that happen with a database backend 
> (right now for me it's postgresql/postgis). Support is the next biggie - 
> people want someone to call and yell at when it doesn't work.
> 
> My .02 cents,
> Randy
> 
> On 06/11/2015 04:28 PM, Steve G wrote:
>> I am not sure this is the correct forum for a start to this discussion, but
>> I've been pondering this for a while and interested what others think.  I
>> work for local government in the U.S. and when people generally talk about
>> GIS there is no doubt an automatic association with the ESRI ArcGIS
>> platform.  And beyond GIS itself, the dominance that ESRI has is even more
>> pronounced given the fact that many cities have implemented other related
>> systems (permitting, computer aided dispatch, etc) that are identified
>> business partners with ESRI.  Furthermore, the "GIS Local Government" track
>> that ESRI developed has evolved to offer an "turnkey" approach for local
>> government self-service to establish a robust geodatabase (Local Government
>> Information Model), maps, apps, web services, etc.  This extends a COTS
>> approach for local governments to establish, develop, and maintain a fairly
>> complete GIS.  In my opinion, pure genius...because for a lot of small
>> cities/governments with limited staff and budget, the turnkey approach is
>> very appealing.  For city bureaucrats thinking about implementing/extending
>> GIS, what they might think as little $$$ and you get all of this?
>> Awesome...here's my money.
>> 
>> HOWEVER, this approach has its drawbacks.  Long-term license/use costs,
>> vendor lock-in, continuous waiting for someone at the company to fix
>> something....well, the list goes on (just read any blog post supporting open
>> source/FOSS).
>> 
>> So, with the evolution of QGIS as a prevailing replacement/alternative for
>> the other product, is anyone thinking about building more of a turnkey
>> approach (database, maps, apps, web services, etc) geared to local
>> governments?  I like the direction of the OpenGeo platform (and others)
>> trying to provide the whole software stack, but still if a small local
>> government wants to have a full fledged interactive GIS, it might seem like
>> a lot of work to develop and maintain.
>> 
>> I am interested in other thoughts...perhaps this belongs on a blog post
>> somewhere more independent, but perhaps this can be a place to begin.
>> 
>> Steve G.
>> 
>> 
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