I didn’t thought about that… and I always assumed that you needed a mac do develop in mac, but if you Google about it I think it’s more a legal issue that a technical issue and people is just virtualizing macOS on VMware and other software. Seems that has downsides, but people say it’s workable.
Anyhow, I understand about the legal side of the issue. > On 5 Nov 2018, at 02:43, Alexandre Neto <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not to read as an excuse, but just to bring one interesting fact, that may > explain the lack of will or interest by non Mac developers to solve an issue > that affects only Mac OS users: > > You can build and test for windows using a Linux or Mac operating system with > a windows virtual machine. > > > You can build and test for Linux using a Windows or Mac operating system with > a linux virtual machine. > > > You CAN'T build nor test for Mac using a Linux or Windows operating system > with a Mac OS Virtual Machine unless you use Mac hardware. > > Apple doesn't make it easy, you need proprietary software AND hardware to > help support qgis on Mac OS. > > Best regards, > > Alexandre Neto > > > > > > > > A sáb, 3/11/2018, 15:20, Adam Dershowitz <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> escreveu: > QGIS is supported on macports and works “out of the box” there. It is > annoying that using both homebrew and macports together isn’t supported, but > that is not a QGIS issue, but a more general package manager issue. > > > --Adam > > > >> On Nov 3, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Luis Puerto <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hey! >> >> Thanks for the hint. I already knew and I’ve been trying to collaborate >> there as much as my ruby knowledge allow me. I have installed both QGIS2 and >> 3 with homebrew in my machine, which usually take me (us) some effort every >> time there is a new release since I like to build in my machine. For that >> reason I say I don’t understand why there isn’t any support —as far as I >> know— from QGIS development to have real up and running Homebrew tap, so >> users just have to type in their terminal brew install qgis3 and then use >> the app out of the box. >> >> >> >>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 21:21, Alex M <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> https://github.com/OSGeo/homebrew-osgeo4mac >>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/homebrew-osgeo4mac> >>> >>> Is the more or less official attempt to support brew install of QGIS and >>> friends. If you are a Mac user who would like to help with that effort, >>> that's the place. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> >>> On 11/2/18 00:31, Luis Puerto wrote: >>>> I just want to give my two cents about “the issue” in macOS. >>>> >>>> I really agree with others that rage and anger aren’t going to take us to >>>> anywhere productive although I understand the frustration when you have >>>> the feeling that something is more complicate in your platform for not >>>> reason at all. >>>> >>>> I understand that we, macOS users, are the least concern, since we are >>>> perhaps the lesser ones. And on top of that macOS seems more complicated >>>> to make things just work. And on top top of that seems that there are few >>>> developers of QGIS on macOS. A vicious circle. >>>> >>>> I really appreciate all the work and effort of everyone involve in the >>>> development of QGIS for all the platforms, and specially for macOS, since >>>> it’s the one I’m using. I really really really appreciate the work even >>>> more since I know that a lot of that effort is for free. This is an open >>>> source community and a lot of the people involve just invest hours in >>>> solve problems and to bring new features to users just for their love to >>>> this project. That is really admirable! >>>> >>>> As a Homebrew user I wondering why QGIS development for macOS isn’t more >>>> involved into bring QGIS through that tool, since, at least in my opinion, >>>> make thing easier. It’s true that for a lot of people work with the >>>> terminal is scary. It was for me when I have to return to work with the >>>> terminal for some projects, and remember working with MS-DOS when I was in >>>> high school, so it wasn’t something new. But, if you can install something >>>> as QGIS just typing in your terminal “brew install qgis3” or “brew cask >>>> install qgis3” and after that everything just works it’s just wonderful. >>>> And sometimes just do. >>>> >>>> Again, thanks a lot, and I hope we can workout the issues in macOS. >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> Luis Puerto >>>> luispuerto.net <http://luispuerto.net/> >>>> >>>>> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:52, Ivano Giuliano <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>>> wise words. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Ivano >>>>> >>>>> Il giorno gio 1 nov 2018 alle 18:31 Nicolas Cadieux >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> ha scritto: >>>>> Hi Stace, >>>>> >>>>> This is a help list made up of mostly of users responding for free and if >>>>> we don’t know the answer we can’t help. Your problem has been >>>>> acknowledged, you received confirmation that the current download is >>>>> broken “Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new version to download >>>>> that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, for this specific >>>>> problem)” and that they have found $3000 for a permanent fix for making >>>>> an easier Mac installation which is what you are looking for if I am not >>>>> mistaken. A link to this project was sent to you. You could contact that >>>>> team to see the evolution of that project and see how you can help them >>>>> with the trouble shooting. That would be a positive contribution on your >>>>> part and it may get you to your solution faster than you think. >>>>> >>>>> I know it can be frustrating to be stuck with a software problem when you >>>>> need a quick fix but please remember that this is an OpenSource project >>>>> where volunteer users and developers are try to be helpful and try to >>>>> contribute in a positive manner. >>>>> >>>>> Nicolas Cadieux >>>>> (list user with no link with the QGIS project) >>>>> >>>>> Le 1 nov. 2018 à 11:35, Mr. Stace D Maples <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> 11 responses about how I should contribute more, how my problem was >>>>>> posted, how I can give money… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not one suggestion for how to fix the issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In F,L&T, >>>>>> >>>>>> Stace Maples >>>>>> >>>>>> Geospatial Manager >>>>>> >>>>>> Stanford Geospatial Center >>>>>> >>>>>> @mapninja >>>>>> >>>>>> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples >>>>>> >>>>>> 214.641.0920 >>>>>> >>>>>> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu >>>>>> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/ >>>>>> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/> >>>>>> <https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/>> >>>>>> stanfordgis Listserv: >>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis >>>>>> <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis><https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis >>>>>> <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "I have a map of the United States... actual size. >>>>>> >>>>>> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." >>>>>> >>>>>> I spent last summer folding it." >>>>>> >>>>>> -Steven Wright- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: William Kyngesburye <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Reply-To: William Kyngesburye <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM >>>>>> To: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Cc: Qgis-user <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS >>>>>> properly, ... 'sigh...' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why you're saying not having a working installer with >>>>>> GRASS, the last few versions have been working as far as I know, I >>>>>> haven't heard of any problems recently. Yes, this one was broken, now >>>>>> there is a new version to download that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed >>>>>> in the future, for this specific problem). Really, a polite "GRASS is >>>>>> not working, it's doing this, or not doing that" on the mailing list, or >>>>>> better a bug report, is all that's needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Mr. Stace D Maples >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just >>>>>> never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS >>>>>> alongside Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t >>>>>> work, out of the box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a >>>>>> working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to >>>>>> upgrade, now. If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is what I get when running GRASS tools: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console output >>>>>> >>>>>> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with >>>>>> C locale. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting GRASS GIS... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Default locale not found, using UTF-8 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Exiting... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with >>>>>> C locale. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting GRASS GIS... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Default locale not found, using UTF-8 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Exiting... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required >>>>>> frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to >>>>>> suggest on StackExchange. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the >>>>>> processing settings, which didn’t work. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In F,L&T, >>>>>> >>>>>> Stace Maples >>>>>> >>>>>> Geospatial Manager >>>>>> >>>>>> Stanford Geospatial Center >>>>>> >>>>>> @mapninja >>>>>> >>>>>> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples >>>>>> >>>>>> 214.641.0920 >>>>>> >>>>>> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu >>>>>> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/ >>>>>> <https://earthworks.stanford.edu/>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/> >>>>>> <https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/>> >>>>>> stanfordgis Listserv: >>>>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis >>>>>> <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis><https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis >>>>>> <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "I have a map of the United States... actual size. >>>>>> >>>>>> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." >>>>>> >>>>>> I spent last summer folding it." >>>>>> >>>>>> -Steven Wright- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 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