I did discuss with Larry once about buying a Mac mini and racking it so we could have a build/test machine. These days there do seem to be a few companies that offer this as a service, perhaps we should try one.
https://xcloud.me/ https://www.macincloud.com/ Thanks, Alex On 11/5/18 03:44, Alexandre Neto wrote: > It's a technical and legal limitation. You "can" workaround using a > custom/hacked Virtual Machine, aka a Hackintosh, but still, how viable is > that for building and testing purposes? > > Luis Puerto <luiss.pue...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 5/11/2018 às > 11:25: > >> I didn’t thought about that… and I always assumed that you needed a mac do >> develop in mac, but if you Google about it I think it’s more a legal issue >> that a technical issue and people is just virtualizing macOS on VMware and >> other software. Seems that has downsides, but people say it’s workable. >> >> Anyhow, I understand about the legal side of the issue. >> >> >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 02:43, Alexandre Neto <senhor.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Not to read as an excuse, but just to bring one interesting fact, that may >> explain the lack of will or interest by non Mac developers to solve an >> issue that affects only Mac OS users: >> >> You can build and test for windows using a Linux or Mac operating system >> with a windows virtual machine. >> >> >> You can build and test for Linux using a Windows or Mac operating system >> with a linux virtual machine. >> >> >> You CAN'T build nor test for Mac using a Linux or Windows operating system >> with a Mac OS Virtual Machine unless you use Mac hardware. >> >> Apple doesn't make it easy, you need proprietary software AND hardware to >> help support qgis on Mac OS. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Alexandre Neto >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A sáb, 3/11/2018, 15:20, Adam Dershowitz <de...@alum.mit.edu> escreveu: >> >>> QGIS is supported on macports and works “out of the box” there. It is >>> annoying that using both homebrew and macports together isn’t supported, >>> but that is not a QGIS issue, but a more general package manager issue. >>> >>> >>> --Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Luis Puerto <luiss.pue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey! >>> >>> Thanks for the hint. I already knew and I’ve been trying to collaborate >>> there as much as my ruby knowledge allow me. I have installed both QGIS2 >>> and 3 with homebrew in my machine, which usually take me (us) some effort >>> every time there is a new release since I like to build in my machine. For >>> that reason I say I don’t understand why there isn’t any support —as far as >>> I know— from QGIS development to have real up and running Homebrew tap, so >>> users just have to type in their terminal brew install qgis3 and then >>> use the app *out of the box*. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2 Nov 2018, at 21:21, Alex M <tech_...@wildintellect.com> wrote: >>> >>> https://github.com/OSGeo/homebrew-osgeo4mac >>> >>> Is the more or less official attempt to support brew install of QGIS and >>> friends. If you are a Mac user who would like to help with that effort, >>> that's the place. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alex >>> >>> On 11/2/18 00:31, Luis Puerto wrote: >>> >>> I just want to give my two cents about “the issue” in macOS. >>> >>> I really agree with others that rage and anger aren’t going to take us to >>> anywhere productive although I understand the frustration when you have the >>> feeling that something is more complicate in your platform for not reason >>> at all. >>> >>> I understand that we, macOS users, are the least concern, since we are >>> perhaps the lesser ones. And on top of that macOS seems more complicated to >>> make things just work. And on top top of that seems that there are few >>> developers of QGIS on macOS. A vicious circle. >>> >>> I really appreciate all the work and effort of everyone involve in the >>> development of QGIS for all the platforms, and specially for macOS, since >>> it’s the one I’m using. I really really really appreciate the work even >>> more since I know that a lot of that effort is for free. This is an open >>> source community and a lot of the people involve just invest hours in solve >>> problems and to bring new features to users just for their love to this >>> project. That is really admirable! >>> >>> As a Homebrew user I wondering why QGIS development for macOS isn’t more >>> involved into bring QGIS through that tool, since, at least in my opinion, >>> make thing easier. It’s true that for a lot of people work with the >>> terminal is scary. It was for me when I have to return to work with the >>> terminal for some projects, and remember working with MS-DOS when I was in >>> high school, so it wasn’t something new. But, if you can install something >>> as QGIS just typing in your terminal “brew install qgis3” or “brew cask >>> install qgis3” and after that everything just works it’s just wonderful. >>> And sometimes just do. >>> >>> Again, thanks a lot, and I hope we can workout the issues in macOS. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Luis Puerto >>> luispuerto.net >>> >>> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:52, Ivano Giuliano <ivano.giuli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Nicolas, >>> wise words. >>> >>> Best, >>> Ivano >>> >>> Il giorno gio 1 nov 2018 alle 18:31 Nicolas Cadieux < >>> nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca <mailto:nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca >>> <nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca>>> ha scritto: >>> Hi Stace, >>> >>> This is a help list made up of mostly of users responding for free and if >>> we don’t know the answer we can’t help. Your problem has been >>> acknowledged, you received confirmation that the current download is broken >>> “Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new version to download that is >>> fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, for this specific problem)” >>> and that they have found $3000 for a permanent fix for making an easier Mac >>> installation which is what you are looking for if I am not mistaken. A link >>> to this project was sent to you. You could contact that team to see the >>> evolution of that project and see how you can help them with the trouble >>> shooting. That would be a positive contribution on your part and it may >>> get you to your solution faster than you think. >>> >>> I know it can be frustrating to be stuck with a software problem when you >>> need a quick fix but please remember that this is an OpenSource project >>> where volunteer users and developers are try to be helpful and try to >>> contribute in a positive manner. >>> >>> Nicolas Cadieux >>> (list user with no link with the QGIS project) >>> >>> Le 1 nov. 2018 à 11:35, Mr. Stace D Maples <stacemap...@stanford.edu < >>> mailto:stacemap...@stanford.edu <stacemap...@stanford.edu>>> a écrit : >>> >>> 11 responses about how I should contribute more, how my problem was >>> posted, how I can give money… >>> >>> >>> >>> Not one suggestion for how to fix the issue. >>> >>> >>> >>> In F,L&T, >>> >>> Stace Maples >>> >>> Geospatial Manager >>> >>> Stanford Geospatial Center >>> >>> @mapninja >>> >>> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples >>> >>> 214.641.0920 <(214)%20641-0920> >>> >>> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu < >>> https://earthworks.stanford.edu/> >>> >>> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/> >>> stanfordgis Listserv: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis< >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis> >>> >>> >>> >>> "I have a map of the United States... actual size. >>> >>> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." >>> >>> I spent last summer folding it." >>> >>> -Steven Wright- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: William Kyngesburye <wokl...@kyngchaos.com < >>> mailto:wokl...@kyngchaos.com <wokl...@kyngchaos.com>>> >>> Reply-To: William Kyngesburye <kyngch...@kyngchaos.com < >>> mailto:kyngch...@kyngchaos.com <kyngch...@kyngchaos.com>>> >>> Date: Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM >>> To: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemap...@stanford.edu < >>> mailto:stacemap...@stanford.edu <stacemap...@stanford.edu>>> >>> Cc: Qgis-user <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org < >>> mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org <qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS >>> properly, ... 'sigh...' >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know why you're saying not having a working installer with GRASS, >>> the last few versions have been working as far as I know, I haven't heard >>> of any problems recently. Yes, this one was broken, now there is a new >>> version to download that is fixed (and shouold stay fixed in the future, >>> for this specific problem). Really, a polite "GRASS is not working, it's >>> doing this, or not doing that" on the mailing list, or better a bug report, >>> is all that's needed. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Mr. Stace D Maples < >>> stacemap...@stanford.edu <mailto:stacemap...@stanford.edu >>> <stacemap...@stanford.edu>>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just >>> never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside >>> Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the >>> box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of >>> QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now. If >>> you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is what I get when running GRASS tools: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2018-10-31T08:54:25 INFO GRASS GIS 7 execution console output >>> >>> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with >>> C locale. >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting GRASS GIS... >>> >>> >>> >>> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist >>> >>> >>> >>> Default locale not found, using UTF-8 >>> >>> >>> >>> Exiting... >>> >>> >>> >>> WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with >>> C locale. >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting GRASS GIS... >>> >>> >>> >>> ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist >>> >>> >>> >>> Default locale not found, using UTF-8 >>> >>> >>> >>> Exiting... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions >>> >>> Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables >>> >>> Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times) >>> >>> Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required >>> frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest >>> on StackExchange. >>> >>> Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the >>> processing settings, which didn’t work. >>> >>> >>> >>> Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In F,L&T, >>> >>> Stace Maples >>> >>> Geospatial Manager >>> >>> Stanford Geospatial Center >>> >>> @mapninja >>> >>> G+, Skype, Hangout: stacey.maples >>> >>> 214.641.0920 <(214)%20641-0920> >>> >>> Find GeoData: https://earthworks.stanford.edu < >>> https://earthworks.stanford.edu/> >>> >>> Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/ <https://gis.stanford.edu/> >>> stanfordgis Listserv: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis< >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/stanfordgis> >>> >>> >>> >>> "I have a map of the United States... actual size. >>> >>> It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile." >>> >>> I spent last summer folding it." >>> >>> -Steven Wright- >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> <Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>> >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com> >>> >>> http://www.kyngchaos.com/ <http://www.kyngchaos.com/> >>> >>> >>> All generalizations are dangerous, even this one. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> <Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>> >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> <Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>> >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user < >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user>-- >>> Dr. Ivano Giuliano >>> GIS & Digital Administration >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> -- >> Alexandre Neto >> --------------------- >> @AlexNetoGeo >> http://sigsemgrilhetas.wordpress.com >> http://gisunchained.wordpress.com >> >> >> -- > Alexandre Neto > --------------------- > @AlexNetoGeo > http://sigsemgrilhetas.wordpress.com > http://gisunchained.wordpress.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > _______________________________________________ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user