On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 at 13:16:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
>> Those who suggested a serial lead link from blackbox to PC direct or >>to >> another blackbox - sounds great but where do I get the info on the >>link >> cable, plugs, pinouts etc and do I need to write some software to >>control it >> all? I once had two QL Aurora/SGC/QuBide rigs connected together via >>the >> network sockets with a twisted pair (that's the cable - not my wife >>and I >> !!) and although it was very slow, the results were positive. Is >> this the >> way to go? >> >> Once again, I plead for help. Now where are my back copies of >>QLToday? - >> thanks for the comments Dilwyn. >Serial cables were also covered in Vol 7 Issue 1 (May/June 2002) page >28 of QL Today. > >(So grateful to Brian Kemmett for the QL Today indexes to help find >these things!) > >Once you have the correct cable, keep the baud rate low (4,800 or 9,600 >baud maximum) to connect to PC. No extra software should be needed, but >you might need help with the PC side of things. If you have Hermes, use 19200 (you will get a bit less than 14400 throughput). With superHermes you can use 57,600. > >Here's the basic wiring diagram from that QL Today. Best to use SER2 >for QL to PC communication, as wiring is a bit easier since ser1 is >basically wired as though it was a modem. If you do use ser1, simply >swap pin 2 and 3 over, and swap pin 4 and 5 over. > >QL PC PC PC >SER2 Signal 25pin 9 pin >2 (TxD)---------------------------- RxD 3 2 >3 (RxD) --------------------------- TxD 2 3 >4 (DTR=RTS) ------------------ CTS 5 8 >5 (CTS) -------------------------- RTS 4 7 >1 (GND) ------------------------- GND 7 5 This is exactly right.... >Although ser2 pin 4 is shown in the QL manual as DTR, Tony Firshman >told me a while back it is more like an RTS signal as far as making >these cables is concerned. Indeed it is. >You can then see that making up a serial cable is a simple matter of >cross connecting the relevant signals, i.e. RxD to TxD and vice versa, >and RTS to CTS and vice versa, and connecting the two ground signal >lines together. >As far as software is concerned you shouldn't need anything extra. On >the QL, just a COPY MDV1_filename TO SER2 should work (if you have >Toolkit 2 use COPY_H instead of the COPY command to force it to copy >the header). If you are copying to DOS or Windows you will need the >equivalent command from DOS command line on the PC (in Windows XP, go >to All Programs, Accessories, Command Prompt). In Windows XP anyway you >can get help on its copy command with the command COPY /? (the /? >switch telling it to print some help). From memory, I can't remember >the full command, but it's something like: > >COPY COM1: C:\directory\filename It is -much- better to use a comms program each end, and use a file transfer protocol. qtpi and zmodem are perfect the QL end. >I confess to being a bit of an idiot with serial links. Tony Firshman >swears there is nothing hard about the subject, but I always seem to >run into every problem possible when I try, so good luck. (8-)# It helps having sold the Astracom modem and QuaLsoft file transfer. All my -hard- work was done by 1989! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@<surname>.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG _______________________________________________ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm