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From: "Norman Dunbar" <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:23 PM
To: <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Websites

I'm late to the party again!

I use these http://www.5quidhost.co.uk/ who will give you a whole heap of "stuff" for £5.00 per month, discounted by paying a year in advance.

Support is excellent, emails enquiries are promptly answered, servers are UK based in the main.

They have a free setup, £5 per month and £10 per month. You can install anything (legally!) you wish when you have set up your account.

My own web site (http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk) is hosted on a no-longer available plan costing less that £5 but I'm serioulsy considering upgrading due to the amount of "stuff" that now lives on my host server. This is mainly thanks to George updating the QDOS/SMSQ stuff on my web site.

For £5 you get 1,000 MB disc, and an infinite number of the following:

Email accounts, MySQL databases, Add on domains, sub-domains, FTP accounts (including, if I'm not mistaken SFTP) and unlimited bandwidth.

There is also a packaged installer in your control panel, where you can download backups of your entire site, databases, etc, Install numerous blogs, forums (fora), Content Management Systems, E-commerce, etc - over 200 different applications are supplied included in the price. (Some of these are not available on the free hosting though, that has other limits too)

One of the CMS systems is TYPO3, which is, as far as I remember, the very one used by Quanta.

I'm only a happy customer, not involved with these people at all.



Thanks for this constructive contribution. In fact, thanks to everyone who has responded. The discussion has taken place unemotionally , which is what need if we are to solve the problems. And a fully functioning website is vital for the survival of Quanta.

There are two problems to be solved:

1: We cannot afford to pay £346 for a web host. When you do the arithmetic you realise that the subscription - even with this year's increase - is far too low for Quanta to be financially viable and has been far too low for about 10 years. We should think in terms of a subscription of up to £25.

2: The 6 - 7 year history of Quanta's failures to update its websites. On the whole Quanta has had competent Web Masters, but they have never had the consistent support of the officers, whose duty it is to provide the updated content.

I would like to add an anecdote.

One of the reasons I have a lot of sympathy for Quanta's Web Masters is my own experience of running dedicated pages on my website for the QL2004 and QLis21 shows.

With one exception I was always able to update the non-Quanta QL2004 webpage within 24 hours. The exception was when Sjef v.d. Molengraaf asked me to hold fire for a couple of days because he had heard that a hotel we were recommending was about to close for renovation.

Updating the Quanta QLis21 webpage was a nightmare. It could take up to a week to get the officers' approval, which was frustrating in the last month before a show. I still do not know if it was downright inefficiency or sheer bloody-mindedness to put me in my place. If you think I am being paranoid by the last sentence you have not seen how hierarchically minded Quanta's officers, present and past, are,

Best wishes,


Geoff

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