Tony Firshman wrote:

> On  Tue, 9 Jul 2002 at 03:30:56, Alan Tyson wrote:
> (ref: <001b01c226f0$a81a5620$3a51883e@alantyso>)
> 
>>My 86-yr-old father in S.Wales (I'm near Chester) acquired a
>>s/h QL about 10yrs ago, which has kept him well amused. He
>>used a selection from his many ancient TVs as monitors until
>>recently, when the last old wreck died, despite much
>>tinkering. His interest has been revitalised by a double
>>cataract operation, so now he can see what he's doing.
>>
>>A kindly neighbour has given him an old monitor with a 7-pin
>>DIN socket on the back. Its manufacturer is "St Bernadette,
>>Made in Singapore". We don't even know if it's monochrome or
>>colour.
>>
> Google search found 'St Bernadette' school  who 'monitor staff' (8-)#
> 
> ie found nothing on the web.
> 
> Any more details like model ID?
> 
>>My Dad tells me there's a 7-pin DIN socket on the back of
>>the QL,


I'd better check that again...AFAIK all QLs have a 8-pin DIN.

Here you have to be VERY careful.  Sinclair assigned BLUE to the centre pin, 
but some/a lot of TV manufacturers who also put an 8-pin DIN on their 
equipment assigned +ve to this pin.  The result being that putting the 
connecting cable in the wrong way round could cause the QL to be fried. 
[One cable supplier for the QL always supplied 8-pin for the QL end and 
7-pin for the TV end.]

>         and the QL web site tells me there's RGB and
>>composite video output. A former colleague who dealt with
>>the audiovisuals where we both worked tells me it's quite
>>likely that either a straight-through or a crossover 7-pin
>>DIN plug to 7-pin DIN plug lead might miraculously work
>>(courtesy of St Bernadette). CPC claim to supply such
>>(straight-through) leads for 1.02 ukpounds, but whether
>>they'll sell me a single one at a reasonable price I don't
>>know.
>>
>>What do list members think? Can anyone provide me with a
>>pinout diagram for the RGB or composite video QL outputs?


The QL uses an 8-Pin DIN (circular, not offset) connector, as viewed from
outside the QL/solder side of plug:

        -------
       / 7 ^ 6 \       ^ = locating notch
      / 3     1 \
      |    8    |    1-8 = Numbered pins
      \ 5     4 /
       \   2   /
        -------

However, there appears to [possibly] be a mistake in the manual, as the pin
functions were given in 'QL world' (May 1987) differently:

    Pin      Manual                  QL World
     1     Composite PAL         Monocrome (b/w) video
     2     Ground                Ground
     3     Composite Monocrome   PAL colour video
     4     Composite Sync        Composite Sync
     5     Vertical Sync         [No connection]
     6     Green                 Green
     7     Red                   Red
     8     Blue                  Blue

The main difference being that Black/White and Colour composites are swapped
and Vertical sync doesn't actually do anything.

>                                                           Do
>>we stand a cat in QL's chance of success? My Dad is very
>>happy sticking bits of wire in the individual socket holes
>>to try things out if necessary.


This can be dangerous, not only to him, but to the monitor & QL - he could 
end up frying either or both of them.


> I think it very very very very unlikely it is a straight through
> connector - there are too many permutations.
> 
> Sinclair was the sort of guy who specialised in making apparently std
> sockets, non-standard - ie 9D serial connector

> 
> Sticking wires in pins could be dodgy.  Find the GND pin first using
> continuity meter (with power off).  I will stop here - I reckon it would
> be pretty dodgy trying at random.  Is there no existing lead?  At least
> then you can see active connections.


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