Ace Suares wrote:
I'm gonna copy this to the list since you sent it directly to me instead of the list :).I'm just wondering why installing it from source like everyone else does isn't a solution that works. Seems to work fine and is alot more portable then a single distribution package.
I don't know why installing it from source doesn't work. Maybe it does work. Are you a linux expert of some kind ?
� am not. Or maybe I am. I know very well how to *configure* things and I don't mean the micro$oft way. I know how to use php and ldap and mysql to write webinterfaces to qmail-ldap. But I'd rather not mingle too much with the system (Debian/woody) itself, as for when I make a new system, it's really nice to select a couple of packages, check the config files and off you go.
qmail-ldap is my favorite - really - although I am now investigating postfix, for the ONLY reason that postfix, postfix-ldap and postfix-
amavis are readily available packages in debian.
If there is an important patch to one of the debian packages, I select 'upgrade' and do *not* worry anymore. qmail is the only package where that won't work - there is qmail, there is qmail-ldap, there is qmail-queueu-scanner.pl to worry about. That's a lot. Much too much.
Since I have to do that work anyway, I might just as well try to find out how it works and produce a .deb for it, so I can upgrade my own systems whenever needed, and maybe someone else has some benefit from it too.
What are you using for distibution ? linux-from-scratch ???
Greetings and it's nice to talk to you. Sorry if I am blunt.
Ace
I don't use LFS I use Gentoo, and sure the emerge product is great, I can do a emerge -u world and bang all my packages are up to date. I use it for installing the qmail support tools (daemon toos, ucspi-tcp, etc). But I have a very good reason to not use the build for qmail, I don't know who set it up and they're skill in setting up a qmail installation. Following lifewithqmail/lifewithqmailldap is almost as easy as using a package. And I know the exact steps that were used to set it up. So if something goes wrong I can post a question to either the qmail or qmail-ldap list and say exactly what steps were taken. With a package if you have problems I can almost gaurentee you that the first thing the experts will say is uninstall whatever package you used, then install using lifewithqmail/ldap instructions. If your still having problems then ask us again.
If you want to make a binary .deb you will not be able to distribute it as it is not within the scope of DJB's license for qmail (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). I'm not entirely sure but I believe you would be able to distribute a source deb that people could build, your best bet for that would be to ask on the qmaildist mailing list. Info in above link.
Sure if you have 15 or 20 machines in a cluster to install. building a pacakge to do the install would be great. But for me the frequency at which I have to install/upgrade my qmail there is no point in taking the time to build a package since I build maybe once a year for the server. And that's only if Claudio comes up with some amazing bug fix. After all if it ain't broke don't fix it right?
--Mike
