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> I'm gonna copy this to the list since you sent it directly to me instead of the 
> list :).

There was good reason not to post it to the list.
By the way, I can read to: fields and know how to use reply-to. 
(bare some oh-no-seconds).
> 
> I don't use LFS I use Gentoo, and sure the emerge product is great, I can do a 
> emerge -u world and bang all my packages are up to date.  I use it for 
> installing the qmail support tools (daemon toos, ucspi-tcp, etc).  But I have a 
> very good reason to not use the build for qmail, I don't know who set it up and 
> they're skill in setting up a qmail installation.  Following 
> lifewithqmail/lifewithqmailldap is almost as easy as using a package.  And I 
> know the exact steps that were used to set it up.  So if something goes wrong I 
> can post a question to either the qmail or qmail-ldap list and say exactly what 
> steps were taken.  With a package if you have problems I can almost gaurentee 
> you that the first thing the experts will say is uninstall whatever package you 
> used, then install using lifewithqmail/ldap instructions.  If your still having 
> problems then ask us again.

Frankly speaking, I don't care too much how you set up your system.
If you need help, and I can help, I probably will.

I have my reasons to look for a way to put qmail-ldap in a .deb
If there is anyone who can help me, fine. If not, fine too.
> 
>     If you want to make a binary .deb you will not be able to distribute it as 
> it is not within the scope of DJB's license for qmail 

Hey - great news. I didn't knwo that (not).

> (http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html).  I'm not entirely sure but I believe you 
> would be able to distribute a source deb that people could build, your best bet 
> for that would be to ask on the qmaildist mailing list.  Info in above link.

In Debian, qmail is distributed in such a way that the package 
downloads first the source, then patches it, then lets you build it 
manually with the build-qmail command, then lets you install it with 
the dpkg -i command. All the djb things (daemontools, tcpserver, 
djbdns) are done this way. Relatively easy. Compliant with the 
policies, too.

What I need is a qmail-ldap package that works similar. At the 
moment, I patch build-qmail to apply the qmail-ldap patches just 
before the actual build. But, as stated before, those patches won't 
apply to the sourcetree that the debian packages leaves there. So, 
logically, I am looking for a qmail-ldap package, that *does* 
install the qmail-ldap patches and then behaves similar to the 
existing qmail package. If it's not there, I'll eventually make it.


>      Sure if you have 15 or 20 machines in a cluster to install.

I think installing it on more then one machine is enough reason to 
make a package. Actually, reinstalling one machine already meets my 
criteria for automation.

>  building a 
> pacakge to do the install would be great.  But for me the frequency at which I 
> have to install/upgrade my qmail there is no point in taking the time to build 
> a package since I build maybe once a year for the server.  And that's only if 
> Claudio comes up with some amazing bug fix.  After all if it ain't broke don't 
> fix it right?

Hey - I run a 2 year old patch, and do you hear me complaining ? But 
there's a lot of fixes and features, so I am moving ahead.

Maybe this is the wrong list to ask how to integrate qmail-ldap 
patch into debian ? Could very well be.

Greetings,
ace



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