>>>> "asantos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/06/00 04:57PM >>>
>From: Chris Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>How about you and Dave take all your points off list.
>>
>
>Amazing. Since Feb 2000 this is exactly your second post, AFAICS.
Very
>construtive.
>
>Armando

I am going to break my self-enforced silence to make a quick point, as
I will burst
with frustration if I don't. After that I will leave the list, as I
will have become part
of the problem, and have little faith that a solution will be found.

1) I am a newbie to qmail. Never asked a question on the list, things
work just fine. I
read the docs and set up prototypes until I felt I had enough of a
handle on it to use
it in production.  This seems to support the point that a someone with
a bit of
intelligence, work ethic and time can succeed with this software, even
without this list.

2) Quick question to ask yourself before you post: If your boss read
your post on this
forum, would it reflect well upon your future employment with that
firm? How about if
your wife/gf read your post? 

3) I would be irresponsible if I continued to allow this list to waste
my time with topics
that are clearly off-charter. In that I am sure MY boss would agree.

4) This list _cries_ out for a moderator, as the vocal denizens of this
list are unable
to keep their off-topic thoughts to themselves.

5) I believe this list is doing a disservice to the qmail community, as
the signal-to-noise
ratio is below Usenet. Perhaps a moderator, or a stricter enforcement
of the list
charter would make a difference. Failing that I see this list
continuing to turn away
new blood. Hard to take over the world when you alienate a large number
of potential
contributers, and go around hammering on those without a clue. 

I believe moderation is the solution, perhaps the only solution to this
mess.

And, yes, I would be happy to spend some time moderating posts. I don't
mind
putting my time in on something that is good for the community.  As it
stands though,
I would be embarassed should I have to explain why I read all these
posts from this
list, as there is very little value in reading zero-content flames and
complaints.

Have a good day, from a former list subscriber, and still very happy
qmailer,

Gary Barnett
Network Administrator
Wells, St. John, et al



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