OK I finally got qmail-remote to run under truss from the command line. Here is what I see: open("/var/ld/ld.config", O_RDONLY) Err#2 ENOENT What? Why? I can't find this file on any system I have (Solaris and Linux) open64("/var/qmail/bin/qmail-remote", O_RDONLY) = 3 close(19) Err#9 EBADF I've gotten the same results with qmail-remote ownded by root:other and qmailr:qmail. Here are the remaining errors that I didn't get at all: fcntl(19, F_SETFD, 0x00000001) = 0 ioctl(2, TCGETA, 0xFFBEF9AC) = 0 ioctl(19, TCGETA, 0xFFBEF9AC) Err#25 ENOTTY read(19, " # ! / b i n / s h\n / u".., 128) = 85 brk(0x00039918) = 0 fork() = 9675 waitid(P_PID, 9675, 0xFFBEF8A8, WEXITED|WTRAPPED|WNOWAIT) = 0 ioctl(0, TIOCGPGRP, 0xFFBEF864) = 0 ioctl(0, TCGETS, 0x0003836C) = 0 waitid(P_PID, 9675, 0xFFBEF8A8, WEXITED|WTRAPPED) = 0 brk(0x00039718) = 0 read(19, 0x00038478, 128) = 0 ioctl(19, TCGETA, 0xFFBEF944) Err#25 ENOTTY ioctl(19, TCGETA, 0xFFBEF9A4) Err#25 ENOTTY close(19) = 0 llseek(0, 0, SEEK_CUR) = 165841 _exit(0) I don't see a big blow out but I really have no clue. Thanks for any help you can give. ******************************** John McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Central Systems Mills College 510-430-3321 ********************************