probably this is what is going wrong:

this time i used qmail-remote directly :
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-remote schwab.com sender-envelope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail-remote exits with the report rK:
*****
r    Recipient report: acceptance.
K    Message report: success.  host has taken responsibility
               for delivering the message to each acceptable
               recipient.
*****
Now if sender-envelope address is at my qmail-server, the bounce never comes
back. If i change the sender-envelope address to some another address as
[EMAIL PROTECTED], a bounce is received at  that address!!
which may mean
either the remote hosts like aol.com and schwab.com are either not able to
send the bounce message to  the sender-envelope address at my qmail server,
which i have been using. (they don't like my server name/ip, but i checked
that reverse lookup are fine !)
or they are sending the bounce to the envelope, but qmail is not accepting
them due to some reasons......
-ketan



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ketan Bajaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: incorrect_user@correct_domain accepted


> i tried something more :
> sent messages to bad_user_names @yahoo.com, hotmail.com. My qmail logs
show
> that they bounce back immediately, with a error code 554 and 550
> respectively.  which is the correct and expected behaviour.
> No i try again to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], i get a
> 250_ok (remote accepted message) !!! (they should have bounced back).
>
> is it that schwab.com, aol.com are delaying the bounce back and sending
the
> bounce back after sending the accept message ......
> and my qmail logs when it gets the 250_ok message, doesn't write any other
> error info into logs for the same message id / delivery id. or maybe
> qmail-remote closes connection with the remote server after seeing a
250_ok
> message and thus doesn't get the delayed bounce ???
> ( i'm sending the email using "mailto address", and putting a subject with
> no message body)
>
> as you've mentioned : you see the accept message and followed by a bounce.
> what i could be possibly missing? is it some sort of qmail-remote
> configuration??
> thanks,
> Ketan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: incorrect_user@correct_domain accepted
>
>
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:52:54PM -0700, Ketan Bajaj wrote:
> > > i think i haven't been clear enough in explaining the problem...
> > > again,
> > > A (local smtp server)        B (remote smtp server)
> > >
> > > B is at domain schwab.com, about which i do not know anything, whether
> it
> > > has qmail, sendmail, exchange or anything else.
> > >
> > > 1. when A is setup as qmail, and remote address is incorrect@B there
is
> no
> > > bounce from B and the message is accepted at B. I see this at the
qmail
> logs
> > > on A.
> >
> > In sending them a test message, I too see the remote host accept the
> > message, but it promptly bounces it with '550 User Unknown'. Your qmail
> > server is likely configured incorrectly -- you should be seeing the
> > bounces. Please send a message, _headers and all_, that you sent to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your qmail server...
> >
> > GW

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