Your bounce-back error message seems the same like I was
LA said you need to remove qmail certificate. but which one I dont know
and after removing the cert, I dont know what should I do to make qmail realise that there are no longer certicate (reboot ?)

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16427.html

but luckily after receiving email from LA my user didn't complain again.
So I am not bothering him again :)

David Campbell wrote:
looking through some mail-list archives I can see that apparently some Cisco Pix firewalls attempt to correct the SMTP transaction and stuff up TLS, and all our stuff comes and goes through a Cisco PIX firewall... so this may be the issue...

Is there any way to force the qmailtoaster not to use TLS when sending to this particular server/domain ?

On 11/02/2008, *David Campbell* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    SOrry, missed your reply. I'm still having issues with this, here
    is an update on what happens in the SEND log

    @4000000047aaca162d9f09fc starting delivery 23710: msg 10749661 to
    remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    @4000000047aaca162d9f9a84 status: local 0/10 remote 1/60
    @4000000047aaca1724b6c7e4 delivery 23710: deferral:
    TLS_connect_failed;_connected_to_218.185.4.135./
    @4000000047aaca1724b6fe94 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
    @4000000047aaca461cefc4ac new msg 10749528
    @4000000047aaca461cf012cc info msg 10749528: bytes 855 from
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 27701 uid 89
    @4000000047aaca461d5a03e4 starting delivery 23711: msg 10749528 to
    local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    @4000000047aaca461d5a5204 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60
    @4000000047aaca4621431d24 delivery 23711: success: did_0+0+1/
    @4000000047aaca4621437ecc status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
    @4000000047aaca462143adac end msg 10749528
    @4000000047aaca5b210e2e5c starting delivery 23712: msg 10749712 to
    remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    @4000000047aaca5b210e844c status: local 0/10 remote 1/60
    @4000000047aaca5c0920b15c delivery 23712: deferral:
    TLS_connect_failed;_connected_to_218.185.4.135./
    @4000000047aaca5c0924fb04 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
    @4000000047aaca5c18a8187c new msg 10749528



    On 07/02/2008, *Eric Shubes* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        You won't see much in the smtp (or submission) log. The
        problem is occurring
        on the outbound side of the toaster, which will be in the send
        log. Is there
        any indication there? If not, the only thing I can think of
        would be to turn
        on recordio on the send daemon and see what they're saying to
        each other.
        You can find instructions on using recordio in the list
        archives. Would be
        nice to have that on the wiki.

        David Campbell wrote:
        > yeah thats what I dont understand, this is the only server it
        has issues
        > with, I have access to the server via mstsc and I have
        checked its smtp
        > server and it definitely does not require TLS and doesn't
        even have a
        > cert installed, they are however running GFI mailessentials
        and that
        > does something with the smtp service utilizing, as far as I
        can tell,
        > BLACK MAGIC
        >
        > I checked the smtp log on the qmailtoaster and nothing is really
        > standing out
        >
        > @4000000047aa25b30e6bbbfc tcpserver: pid 23200 from
        218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        > <http://218.185.4.140>
        > @4000000047aa25b30e6beadc tcpserver: ok 23200
        mta2.lan2go.net.au:218 <http://mta2.lan2go.net.au:218>
        > <http://mta2.lan2go.net.au:218>.185.6.102:25 :218.185.4.140::2769
        > @4000000047aa25b31cb83dd4 CHKUSER accepted sender: from
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:> remote
        > <rmshp:unknown:218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        <http://218.185.4.140>> rcpt <> : sender
        > accepted
        > @4000000047aa25b404e6a18c CHKUSER relaying rcpt: from
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:> remote
        > <rmshp:unknown:218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        <http://218.185.4.140>> rcpt
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> :
        > client allowed to relay
        > @4000000047aa25b40a8bda1c CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:> remote
        > <rmshp:unknown:218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        <http://218.185.4.140>> rcpt
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> :
        > found existing recipient
        > @4000000047aa25b412168bec CHKUSER relaying rcpt: from
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:> remote
        > <rmshp:unknown:218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        <http://218.185.4.140>> rcpt
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> :
        > client allowed to relay
        > @4000000047aa25b41992d63c CHKUSER relaying rcpt: from
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:> remote
        > <rmshp:unknown:218.185.4.140 <http://218.185.4.140>
        <http://218.185.4.140>> rcpt
        > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> : client
        > allowed to relay
        >
        > the client got identical TLS bouncebacks for all addresses
        > @lancare.com.au <http://lancare.com.au>
        <http://lancare.com.au> (the exchange server)
        >
        >
        > On 07/02/2008, *Eric Shubes* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
        > wrote:
        >
        >     David Campbell wrote:
        >     > I have a feeling this is the exchange servers problem,
        but I was
        >     > wondering if anyone could help me with some insight
        into this issue
        >     >
        >     > Whenever I try and send mail to it, I get this error
        >     >
        >     > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ###MY_QMAILTOASTER!!!
        >     > <http://mta2.lan2go.net.au/>
        >     > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the
        following
        >     addresses.
        >     > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it
        didn't work out.
        >     >
        >     > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
        >     > TLS connect failed; connected to
        ###BAD_EXCHANGE_SERVERS_IP###
        >     > I'm not going to try again; this message has been in
        the queue too
        >     long.
        >     >
        >     > and ideas?
        >     >
        >     > this qmailtoaster is a completely standard Centos 4.3
        install as per
        >     > qmailtoaster instruction guide
        >     >
        >     > --
        >     > David Campbell
        >     >
        >
        >     Any hints in the send log?
        >
        >     qmail-send appears to be unable to establish a TLS
        connection with the
        >     exchange server (am I stating the obvious?).
        >
        >     Why is it attempting to establish a TLS (secure) connection?
        >
        >     --
        >     -Eric 'shubes'
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