On 12/23/2013 08:17 AM, Dan McAllister wrote:
PS: You might note that Eric and I often disagree on tech issues --
personally, I think this makes our project stronger, as we challenge
each other. I know that MY installations and procedures have been
improved because I take the time to "argue the point" with Eric -- which
makes me look at my decisions anew frequently, and re-evaluate my
opinions often. I suspect that he has altered an opinion or two based on
my input over the years... but that is pure speculation on my part :)

Quite true, Dan. I agree.

In fact Dan and I probably agree much more often than not. There are many things we agree upon which simply go unsaid.

Thanks for your PHP comments, Dan. I suspected that this was the case, but had no personal experience with that so I didn't want to speculate.

Regarding virtualization, we're much closer than it might appear. PVE is simply a (very nice) web interface which sits atop Qemu/KVM/Openvz. While a good many things are covered by the web interface (you can create COW2 (default), Raw, or VMDK disks initially), some things must still be done manually (such as giving a VM direct access to a disk, which I do for user data). Also, PVE provides storage pools and clustering of sorts, which is kinda nice even though I don't typically use these features. I feel that PVE has allowed me to utilize Qemu/KVM with less of a training curve, and it continues to help my productivity, so I continue to use it. Bottom Line is that we're both using essentially the same technology for virtualization. We're simply using different tools for managing things.

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-Eric 'shubes'


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