As mine is set to 60 for concurrencyremote and 100 for concurrencyincoming.

What would you advise ? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Wicus Roets [mailto:wi...@r4c.co.za] 
Sent: 16 February 2014 07:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

I do understand that qmail is not the reason the IP is being blacklisted.

In favour of myself and some else referring to this mail list in future,
would you mind elaborating on qmail-remote throttling? (until the
"offending/spamming user" feature gets implemented)

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: 16 February 2014 07:03 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote:
> Thanks Eric.
>
> Steps I took upon noticing:
>
> 1.) qmailctl stop
> 2.)qmHandle -S"YOUR BLAH BLAH..."
> 3.) Reviewed bounce messages and deleted them with qmHandle upon review
>       qmail-qstat
>       qmail-qread
>       qmHandle -mxxx  quick check on mail message as listed with
> qmail-qread
>       qmHandle -dxxx  deletes relevant message
> 4.) Changed user's password
> 5.) qmailctl start

I'd do #4 first, but given that qmail is stopped I suppose it doesn't really
matter.

> It's been under control for the last 6 hours ...

Crossing fingers...

> Exactly the same scenario played out on Thursday.

Hmmm. Makes one wonder how PW was compromised. I haven't actually heard of
such a thing, but it wouldn't be impossible for some malware to send
credentials to a spammer somewhere. If this happens again for the same
user's account, I'd keep their ability to submit disabled until they've
cleaned their computer of malware (or preferrably obtained a clean
computer). Don't forget to change that password once again after they've got
their computer cleaned up.

> I'm pondering a script or option to recompile, whereby a specific 
> user's account will be disabled (be it via vmoduser) when 
> "sender_was_rejected" or related messages is received from an external 
> mail server, rather than blocking the static public IP of the entire box.

Keep in mind, the blocking of your static public IP address is something
that you don't have direct control of. IOW, QMT isn't doing that blocking.

The problem here is that account credentials are sometimes compromised. 
Having things set up so passwords are never sent in clear text is something
that should always be done. However, this problem will always be present to
some extent, as there is always the human factor. Bottom line, passwords
will occasionally fall into the hands of spammers.

I'm convinced that the best solution to this problem is to have a throttle
on qmail-remote which limits the rate at which emails are sent. 
This would likely keep QMT's IP from being blacklisted, as spam would be
queued up, but would not flood any recipients. It'd be relatively easy to
detect when this happens (queue has a lot of messages over a period of
time), and the offending account could have submission rights suspended
automatically. It'd also be relatively easy to script a process which cleans
the queue before all the messages (eventually) are sent out.

I've written some specs for such a feature, but haven't begun writing it
yet. If some of you would like to sponsor work on this, it could be
developed in short order. If anyone's interested in sponsoring this
development so that it happens sooner than later, please contact me off list
and we'll see what we can do.

> Though I can help myself quite well around a console, scripting at 
> present is slightly out of my reach ...
>
Your help is none the less appreciated.
Thanks Wicus.

--
-Eric 'shubes'


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