Hi Günther,

Günther Bauer wrote:
> Hello,
> thanx for the little tutorial about setting up a low-level application.
> How can i adding widgets to use in the example index.html?
> When i implement a "new qx.ui.control.DateChooser" command for testing,
> the script crashed.
This little tutorial describes how to use the low-level API's of 
qooxdoo. These are mainly the "qx.bom" and "qx.dom" packages together 
with the event layer. The UI layer (and the widgets) are not integrated 
in this pre-defined qooxdoo build. I just pointed you to this little 
tutorial to show you that the tool-chain is capable of creating qooxdoo 
builds with defined a function set. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The script crashes because the class "qx.ui.control.DateChooser" is not 
part of the built JS file (it has a defined function set -> look at the 
"config.json" file at the "include" key)

If you want to use widgets at your HTML page the best way to go is to 
use a "GUI" application type and use the "qx.application.Inline" class 
and implement your widgets inside your application class.
-> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/ui_inline

cheers,
   Alex


> Alexander Back schrieb:
>> Hi Günther,
>>
>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>   
>>> This thing with the configuration settings to load the js files
>>> "on-demand" is interesting.
>>>     
>> Currently this feature is available but there'll is still some work to 
>> do. We already have a bug report for it you can follow if you like.
>> -> http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562
>>
>>   
>>> OK, i understand to use the qooxdoo framework without create
>>> applications is very complicated.
>>> The alternative with the single js file without combining a application
>>> is interesting to know.
>>>     
>> I've just finished a little tutorial about setting up a low-level 
>> application. This does not fit completely for your case, but you can 
>> take a look at the "config.json" to get to know how this is technically 
>> done.
>>
>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/setup_a_low-level_application
>>
>>   
>>> I would like to use the qooxdoo framework to improve the handling for
>>> users and administrators and all other peoples on the City-Tiger portal.
>>> The most html files are existing and i will replace several parts in
>>> this html files with widgets from the qooxdoo framework (with the Inline
>>> Mode).
>>>     
>> That's sounds great :) It would be great if you could share your 
>> experiences with us.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>    Alex
>>
>>   
>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>     
>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>
>>>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> I have yet two another questions:
>>>>> It is possible to create several packages (.js files) where easy to 
>>>>> include
>>>>> in the html files to use the qooxdoo framework?
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> Yes, of course. The cool thing is that the tool-chain is doing the 
>>>> heavy-lifting for you. You only have to setup a proper configuration 
>>>> file ("config.json") and let the generator do his work.
>>>> How to modify your configuration file is explained here
>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/generator_config_ref#packages
>>>> and here
>>>> -> 
>>>> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/generator_config_articles#packages_key
>>>>
>>>> This is the configuration part. Additionally you have to make sure that 
>>>> the packages are loaded when they are needed ("on-demand"). Think of an 
>>>> application which offers a complex dialog. This dialog is seperated into 
>>>> an own package and this package has to be loaded on-demand when the user 
>>>> want to see this dialog for the first time. qooxdoo already offers this 
>>>> mechanism through the "qx.core.Package" class, documentation in the wiki 
>>>> will follow-up soon.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> It is possible to use the qooxdoo framework without creating a
>>>>> application .js file with the "create-application.py" python script?
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> The common way is to generate such a javascript file automatically 
>>>> because adding each script per "script" tag won't be a solution on the 
>>>> long run. The biggest two problems are:
>>>>
>>>>    * you'll have to resolve the dependencies manually
>>>>    * you'll have to load the classes in the right order
>>>>
>>>> And you have repeat these steps with every new class you use/create.
>>>>
>>>> But it is also possible to create a single JS file which includes all 
>>>> needed qooxdoo classes without combining your application files. This is 
>>>> especially interesting when you only have a single JS file where your 
>>>> code resides.
>>>>
>>>> Could you post some infos in which way you like to use qooxdoo?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>    Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Günther wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> Do you already read the "Hello World" starters tutorial? This will 
>>>>>>>>> offer 
>>>>>>>>> you how to setup your application and the framework properly.
>>>>>>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/helloworld
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Yes, i have read the "hello world" starter tutorial. 
>>>>>>> The generated project in the "hello world" starter tutorial working
>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Good to read this :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> This tutorial is about creating GUI applications, qooxdoo is however 
>>>>>>>>> also ready for embedding in existing HTML pages. Instead of creating 
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> "Standalone" application you can create a so-called "Inline" 
>>>>>>>>> application 
>>>>>>>>> to embed qooxdoo widgets inside your HTML page.
>>>>>>>>> See http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/ui_inline for more details.
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> When i change the qx.application.Standalone parameter in
>>>>>>> qx.application.Inline at the Application.js, i became a error: "Invalid 
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>> "extend" in class "custom.Application"! The value is undefined/null!"
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> If you change your application in the way that you add new classes you 
>>>>>> have to run "./generate source" again. The javascript file you are 
>>>>>> including in your HTML file loads every *needed* classes (the tool-chain 
>>>>>> resolves the dependency automatically). So if you add a new class you 
>>>>>> have to resolve these dependencies again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> P.S. nice to see that someone at my location is getting in touch with 
>>>>>>>>> qooxdoo ;-)
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> P. S. Nice, where are you coming from?
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Directly from Landau.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>    Alex 

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