Hi Günther,

Günther Bauer wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> the integrate in our platform does not work.
> I would write a summary next week for you and send to you.
I'll look forward to it :-) Thank you for your efforts.

> I will qooxdoo keep an eye on in the future. Qooxdoo is despite all this
> an interesting project.
Nice to hear.

cheers,
   Alex




> Alexander Back schrieb:
>> Hi Günther,
>>
>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> no problem.
>>> I have try it to use qooxdoo with a own application class was created
>>> from the build tool.
>>> The integration in our platform is to complex at the moment. We have
>>> change to the yui (Yahoo) library.
>>>     
>> I'm just a bit curious: at what point you realized the integration does 
>> not work or which thing just didn't work out for you?
>> To use qooxdoo at existing HTML page is quite a new feature and sharing 
>> your insights (what went wrong/doesn't work out for you) would be a 
>> great benefit for us.
>>
>> Anyways, good luck for your further development!
>>
>> cheers,
>>    Alex
>>   
>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>     
>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>
>>>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> thanx for the little tutorial about setting up a low-level application.
>>>>> How can i adding widgets to use in the example index.html?
>>>>> When i implement a "new qx.ui.control.DateChooser" command for testing,
>>>>> the script crashed.
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> This little tutorial describes how to use the low-level API's of 
>>>> qooxdoo. These are mainly the "qx.bom" and "qx.dom" packages together 
>>>> with the event layer. The UI layer (and the widgets) are not integrated 
>>>> in this pre-defined qooxdoo build. I just pointed you to this little 
>>>> tutorial to show you that the tool-chain is capable of creating qooxdoo 
>>>> builds with defined a function set. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
>>>> The script crashes because the class "qx.ui.control.DateChooser" is not 
>>>> part of the built JS file (it has a defined function set -> look at the 
>>>> "config.json" file at the "include" key)
>>>>
>>>> If you want to use widgets at your HTML page the best way to go is to 
>>>> use a "GUI" application type and use the "qx.application.Inline" class 
>>>> and implement your widgets inside your application class.
>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/ui_inline
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>    Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> This thing with the configuration settings to load the js files
>>>>>>> "on-demand" is interesting.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Currently this feature is available but there'll is still some work to 
>>>>>> do. We already have a bug report for it you can follow if you like.
>>>>>> -> http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> OK, i understand to use the qooxdoo framework without create
>>>>>>> applications is very complicated.
>>>>>>> The alternative with the single js file without combining a application
>>>>>>> is interesting to know.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I've just finished a little tutorial about setting up a low-level 
>>>>>> application. This does not fit completely for your case, but you can 
>>>>>> take a look at the "config.json" to get to know how this is technically 
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/setup_a_low-level_application
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> I would like to use the qooxdoo framework to improve the handling for
>>>>>>> users and administrators and all other peoples on the City-Tiger portal.
>>>>>>> The most html files are existing and i will replace several parts in
>>>>>>> this html files with widgets from the qooxdoo framework (with the Inline
>>>>>>> Mode).
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> That's sounds great :) It would be great if you could share your 
>>>>>> experiences with us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>    Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Günther Bauer wrote:
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> I have yet two another questions:
>>>>>>>>> It is possible to create several packages (.js files) where easy to 
>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>> in the html files to use the qooxdoo framework?
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> Yes, of course. The cool thing is that the tool-chain is doing the 
>>>>>>>> heavy-lifting for you. You only have to setup a proper configuration 
>>>>>>>> file ("config.json") and let the generator do his work.
>>>>>>>> How to modify your configuration file is explained here
>>>>>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/generator_config_ref#packages
>>>>>>>> and here
>>>>>>>> -> 
>>>>>>>> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/generator_config_articles#packages_key
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the configuration part. Additionally you have to make sure 
>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>> the packages are loaded when they are needed ("on-demand"). Think of 
>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>> application which offers a complex dialog. This dialog is seperated 
>>>>>>>> into 
>>>>>>>> an own package and this package has to be loaded on-demand when the 
>>>>>>>> user 
>>>>>>>> want to see this dialog for the first time. qooxdoo already offers 
>>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>>> mechanism through the "qx.core.Package" class, documentation in the 
>>>>>>>> wiki 
>>>>>>>> will follow-up soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> It is possible to use the qooxdoo framework without creating a
>>>>>>>>> application .js file with the "create-application.py" python script?
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> The common way is to generate such a javascript file automatically 
>>>>>>>> because adding each script per "script" tag won't be a solution on the 
>>>>>>>> long run. The biggest two problems are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * you'll have to resolve the dependencies manually
>>>>>>>>    * you'll have to load the classes in the right order
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And you have repeat these steps with every new class you use/create.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it is also possible to create a single JS file which includes all 
>>>>>>>> needed qooxdoo classes without combining your application files. This 
>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>> especially interesting when you only have a single JS file where your 
>>>>>>>> code resides.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you post some infos in which way you like to use qooxdoo?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>    Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Alexander Back schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Günther,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Günther wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you already read the "Hello World" starters tutorial? This 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will offer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you how to setup your application and the framework properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -> http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/helloworld
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, i have read the "hello world" starter tutorial. 
>>>>>>>>>>> The generated project in the "hello world" starter tutorial working
>>>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>> Good to read this :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This tutorial is about creating GUI applications, qooxdoo is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> however 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also ready for embedding in existing HTML pages. Instead of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> creating a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Standalone" application you can create a so-called "Inline" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to embed qooxdoo widgets inside your HTML page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.8/ui_inline for more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> When i change the qx.application.Standalone parameter in
>>>>>>>>>>> qx.application.Inline at the Application.js, i became a error: 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Invalid key
>>>>>>>>>>> "extend" in class "custom.Application"! The value is 
>>>>>>>>>>> undefined/null!"
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>> If you change your application in the way that you add new classes 
>>>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>>>> have to run "./generate source" again. The javascript file you are 
>>>>>>>>>> including in your HTML file loads every *needed* classes (the 
>>>>>>>>>> tool-chain 
>>>>>>>>>> resolves the dependency automatically). So if you add a new class 
>>>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>>>> have to resolve these dependencies again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexander Back wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. nice to see that someone at my location is getting in touch 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> qooxdoo ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> P. S. Nice, where are you coming from?
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>> Directly from Landau.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>    Alex
>>>>>>>>>>                   
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