Just a little side note and a reminder for all who haven't seen it.
http://gmx.com/ is one of our products we develop here at 1&1 which is pretty 
huge and still fast. The guys at the development team did a good job recently 
in speeding up the initial startup. Take a look and tell me if you still think 
its slow. But keep in mind that this app has about as much code as the whole 
qooxdoo framework.
Additionally, qooxdoo is used alot in traditional web pages at 1&1. So if a 
company can rely on it, why should it not be mature enough? See for example 
this site: http://www.1und1.info/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer

<http://www.1und1.info/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer>Regards,
Martin


Am 31.08.2010 um 10:17 schrieb Stefan Andersson:

Proof or not! What does it matter? Compare apples with apples and not apples 
with oranges, cause they are different though they both are fruits.

I think the Qooxdoo team should listen to this thread carefully, cause there is 
a point. Qooxdoo is not that good that it never can improve, so let us all 
listen to this and structure the questions/constructive critics and make a good 
comparison table, much more extended taking in account all relevant issues. 
Good marketing tool!!!! It will show the Qooxdoo perspective. No one needs 
necessarily to be right or wrong, but it all depends on what is included.

I think Qooxdoo speed still can improve a lot more by an even better design. As 
it is I have not found any other framework faster, with the trade offs 
necessary to make, than Qooxdoo. Compare to the development of Java. The first 
versions were extremely slow. Then it was redesigned and the performance 
improved. Qooxdoo has not reached the end of development, and there is a lot 
more to improve. As a matter of fact, with thorough thinking and comparison, I 
have not found anything better out there!! If anyone knows anything better than 
Qooxdoo, which undebatedly has a much better performance please advice me!!! 
But remember, I want at least the functionality of Qooxdoo.

Stefan
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