hi,

Your plug-in approach seems to me more transparent too, if we don't consider patching the qmail system. It is easy for a programmer or a good administrator. Also it will be easy if you use netqmail distribution. But mostly the situation is not like above.

Anyway it is not a problem to include both features. :)

Thanks for your comments,

Baris Simsek
http://www.enderunix.org/simsek/


Mark Bronstein wrote:
I think what the qmailqueue patch does is have qmail-smtp check the environment variable QMAILQUEUE to see if an alternative program to bin/qmail-queue should be run. See http://www.memoryhole.net/qmail/qmailqueue-patch. This patch is included in the net-qmail distribution


So by setting QMAILQUEUE to "bin/qmail-qsheff" either in the run file or in tcprules. qsheff would run instead of qmail-queue. What I'm not sure of is whether qmail-qsheff needs to be changed to have it forward to qmail-queue. It looks like qmail-qsheff may already do that. Not sure though.

What I like about using this "plug in" approach, is that it seems to me to be a more transparent approach then your "wrapper" approach. I'm sure others would disagree. But it as long as qsheff does or could hand off to qmail-queue when it is done, then either approach would be possible.

Mark

Baris Simsek wrote:

hi Mark,

I don't know details, how to qmailqueue patch works. If I am wrong correct me please, it looks for an environment variable to execute an external program before running qmail-queue???

If it works like this, adding this feature will be easy. qsheff executes qmail-queue by itself. So If qmailqueue patch is enabled, qsheff will perform filtering but won't execute qmail-queue, because of it is already running.

It is in my todo list ;)

regards,

Baris Simsek
http://www.enderunix.org/simsek/



Mark Bronstein wrote:

Thanks Baris,

Do you have on your list of upgrades to allow the option of installing qsheff to run as a plugin using the QMAILQUEUE_PATCH, rather than have to use your wrapper around djb's qmail-queue executable?

Thanks again for your work on this software,

Mark

Baris Simsek wrote:

Hello,

I am aware of that. I am going to change the wblist parser. Please wait for 2.0. it will be released in 2 weeks with some cool features like full regular expression support, custom return message to senders include spam word or virusname...

Thanks for your feedbacks.

regards,

Baris Simsek
http://www.enderunix.org/simsek/


Mark Bronstein wrote:

Thanks Jaymer. I guess its good to confirm that there is a problem. I hope we can get some help resolving it since I do think the basic design of the program is good.

Mark

Jaymer wrote:

hi mark

i have a 30-40 item REJECT list, and never used the
ACCEPTS.
but i've found 'wierdness' as well... seems like on
the last r4 release (which i had to upgrade to on new
years eve cause everything mysteriously quit working)
i started receiving email which had previously been
filtered.

i clearly have, for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in the
REJECT list, yet email still arrives when addressed to
that entry... and i know for sure that all that wasn't
coming through prior to that release. i have not tried
r5.  sorry i can't help specifically, but at least i
answered in english :)  and you got a reply... i
usually don't get replies.

jaymer...


PS _ having said that, i modified my wbl file and
added this

ACCEPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
REJECT @mydomain.com
i successfully sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

i added a user [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and sent an email
which was accepted, even though it appears to violate
the generic REJECT rule.
then i added REJECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and it WAS
rejected finally.

SO, i have the opposite experience as you, but still
incorrect if, by design, we are supposed to be able to
filter at the domain level.


--- Mark Bronstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can someone explain how to use multiple wblist rules
together?
I want to limit incoming mail to a few known users and assume mail to anyone else is just spam.

so I  tried the following rules which I had thought
should only allow mail in addressed to user1 and user2 and reject the
rest:

ACCEPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ACCEPT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
REJECT @domain.com

This doesnt seem to work.  All mail to domain.com
ends up being rejected.

TIA,

Mark Bronstein






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