Hey Ron, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. It's quite sad. I'm a T7/8 para with rods from T7 all the way down into my pelvis. I cant bend my back but can manage my own bowel regime including digital stimulation. It's a matter of laying on your side and reaching behind you. I began cleaning myself up when I was in rehab after I first became paralyzed. At least I knew if I didn't do it right, someone was there to help me. I eventually became very good at it and was able to manage when I got home, including doing it in a shower chair. I began having to digitally stimulate when I became impacted and someone my body doesnt want to go without it now. I live alone and the cna's dont have to help with that at all. Maybe I'm lucky but it made me curious if it's something he can potentially learn on his own without having to count on someone else to do it. Stacy
----- Original Message ---- From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 4:22:24 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] talk about nurses not performing digital stimulation Hello, a paraplegic friend of mine was shot 5 years ago and has the standard neurogenic bowell. Well he had to move in with his mother and she refused to do digital stimulation.......she would only insert suppossitories and wait. This resulted in many accidents and him wearing diapers daily. He couldnt even bend for fear of an accident. After awhile things became worse he got impacted over and over........so the hosspital said they were really going to help him by giving him a colostomy bag. Now hes still in the hospital with the bag and now had bedsores because they dont roll you either. They wont even let him back in his wheelchair. Saddens me ron c7