The legbag trick always works.  empty your legbag under the radiator  and 
then call the police.  Tell the owner that they have something leaking  from 
the 
front of their car.....  taste it to be sure
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2009 3:43:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE  , WILL KILL YOU 
DEAD, THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR  NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson  <lorilivin...@gmail.com> wrote:

From:  Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To:  r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January  25, 2009, 3:15 PM



Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas  tanks.  :-)  Be 
it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple  them up for a bit.
 
Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L  PRACHT <_r.pra...@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) > wrote:


Hey guys,
 
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story  that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters  and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section  between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in  one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it  was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on  my cell and explained the prob. 
Ten minutes later the officer  arrived and I explained this happens all the 
time and how  people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if  
they 
block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up  then he moved it back 
into the spot then proceded to go in  hooters, find the guy and bring him 
outside. I later found out  that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was 
laughing about  the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it  
again. 
So....in short the problem we have is the cops dont  enforce the lined off 
sections so dirtbags will continue to  park there. The next time this happens I 
wont call the police  I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar 
bike,  then maybe he will learn.
 
Ron  c7                               
 

 
 

Anyway, someone has probably already said this but  the office of motor 
vehicles gives the placards (or licence  plates with wheelchair insignias on 
them) 
out like  candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with "bills being passed" -- is whether  they are actually 
enforced or not.  Unfortunately  usually not.  
 
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a "retirement  attraction city" and they are 
also giving driver's  licenses out to people who can barely think  yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as  they used to be and 
therefore 
cause many accidents.   The winters here are great except the population 
doubles  between October and May or somewhere around there!   Therefore the 
traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded  with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let  alone get back to their car and be on the road!   Scary!
 
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living  Center in New York state 
and my supervisor would come  storming in some morning saying "There ought to 
be a law  that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of  xx!!!" I 
can't remember now the exact age he said  but I more than agree!  At a certain 
age, reflexes have  slowed down significantly enough that they people  should 
not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to  others as well as to 
themselves.
 
Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM,  Quadius <_quad...@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:quad...@gmail.com) > wrote:

This  reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in  the 
disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone  with me so I don't have to take 
it 
disabled spots most of  the time.  I really feel for those individuals who  
drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp  access.

There are those occasions where I do need  to park in an accessible spot so 
that my ramp can deploy  properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving  
around looking for a parking place while nondisabled  people are ensconced in 
them.
Quadius

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM,  bob quinn <_kult...@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:kult...@yahoo.com) > wrote:


 
Love the idea!  I can't count the number of  times I've been unable to get 
into my van because  someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.   Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its  parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a  placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped  push my van out so I could put my ramp down).   

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until  she returned was adamant 
about her right to park there  (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman 
had told  her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other  handicap 
spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied)  guy said without apology, "don't get me 
started, my wife  has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right  to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere  in site).  Another guy 
with a placard and no  discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually 
 
said, "you handicapped people think you're so  special."  I could go on.  I 
was never  anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I  usually got 
in 
return was far, far from it.  I  guess that reflects the type of people that 
would park  in a space that clearly isn't one.





  
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Subject: [QUAD-L]  Bill targets handicapped parking  violators




A rapid enforcement program of violations and  fines, will pay off the 
National Debt, in just under 3  years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with  yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central  Standard Time, 
_kkba...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com)  writes:

_http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_v
iolato68834/_ 
(http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/)
 

Bill  targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY  (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January  19, 2009


Special  Section:
Watchdog

People use handicap  placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in  the 
striped access aisles next to designated spaces.  And confusion abounds over 
who is responsible for  catching violators.

"There's a continual  problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking  
in spaces without a placard or having a placard  they're not entitled to," said 
Sen. Vincent Sheheen of  Camden.

Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North  Myrtle Beach, both Democrats, 
introduced a bill last  week to create more accountability in the process of  
acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has  passed the legislation 
twice, but 
the bill stalled in  the House both times, Sheheen said.

Angela  Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic  chapter of 
the National Multiple Sclerosis Society,  said record keeping is part of the  
problem.

"There's a disconnect between the  forms from the DMV and the physician who 
writes the  prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone  said.

A Watchdog report earlier this year found  the Department of Motor Vehicles 
does not record  physicians' information, leaving no way to check  whether a 
physician actually filled out the form. The  bill would connect those dots with 
a form that will  stay on file with the DMV.

The proposed law  also would redefine a person with a  disability.

"The current law may not include a  person with Multiple Sclerosis because 
they may not  look like they have a disease," she said. Many people  with MS 
suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the  day.

And finally, the legislation would connect  the person and the placard with 
an identification  card, which law enforcement personnel could look at  and 
match.

Although not part of the proposed  law, the MS society would like to see more 
 clarification in the law regarding who has  jurisdiction for enforcement.

"Some agencies  will tell us they will go to business parking lots.  Others 
say it's private property," Jacildone  said.

"We would also like to see more language  about access aisles," she said.

Cars sometimes  park in the striped areas next to designated spaces.  That 
aisle is necessary for a person with a disability  to get in and out of their 
wheelchair or  scooter.

Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or _jco...@postandcourier.com_ 
(mailto:jco...@postandcourier.com) .






 
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