We live in Bullhead City, Az and it seems everyone here has a handicapped 
placard, We don't expect to find an open handicapped space and then I'm not 
surprised when indeed there isn't one. We park across two regular spaces and we 
made up two 8 1/2 x 11 signs that read " RAMP VAN NEED TWO SPACES TO OPEN RAMP 
WHEN HANDICAPPED SPOTS ARE FULL " this seems to make me and everyone else 
happy. Before we made up the signs one guy parked as close as he could to the 
driver side door to keep us from getting back in, but we used the ramp door " 
no problem be happy " and then he wrote a nasty note others just wrote nasty 
notes. We embossed the signs and put them in the drivers and passenger side 
windows.

The only ones that seem to get upset about people abusing 
sing the handicapped parking laws is us, the abuser just goes on his merry way. 
I just decided that I'm not going to let them ruin my day.

Cullen
C3



--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Quadius <quad...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Quadius <quad...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: "bob quinn" <r...@sockets.com>
Cc: wheelch...@aol.com, kkba...@yahoo.com, ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com, 
quad-list@eskimo.com, jco...@postandcourier.com
Received: Friday, January 23, 2009, 6:26 PM

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.


There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.

Quadius

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn <kult...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  


One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, "don't get me 
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was
 nowhere in site).  Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps 
('cept for being +300lbs) actually said, "you handicapped people think you're 
so special."  I could go on.  I was never anything but respectful in all 
encounters, but what I usually got in return was far, far from it.  I guess 
that reflects the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't 
one.



From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>

To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com

Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM

Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators




 

A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the 
National Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
 

In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/


Bill 
  targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post 
  and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009


Special 
  Section:
Watchdog

People use handicap placards that don't belong to 
  them. Drivers park in the striped access aisles next to designated spaces.. 
And 
  confusion abounds over who is responsible for catching 
  violators.

"There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap 
  placards, parking in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not 
  entitled to," said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.

Sheheen and Sen. 
  Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats, introduced a bill last 
  week to create more accountability in the process of acquiring a placard. The 
  state Senate already has passed the legislation twice, but the bill stalled 
in 
  the House both times, Sheheen said.

Angela Jacildone, state advocacy 
  manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis 
  Society, said record keeping is part of the problem.

"There's a 
  disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who writes the 
  prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.

A Watchdog report 
  earlier this year found the Department of Motor Vehicles does not record 
  physicians' information, leaving no way to check whether a physician actually 
  filled out the form. The bill would connect those dots with a form that will 
  stay on file with the DMV.

The proposed law also would redefine a 
  person with a disability.

"The current law may not include a person 
  with Multiple Sclerosis because they may not look like they have a disease," 
  she said. Many people with MS suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the 
  day.

And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the 
  placard with an identification card, which law enforcement personnel could 
  look at and match.

Although not part of the proposed law, the MS 
  society would like to see more clarification in the law regarding who has 
  jurisdiction for enforcement.

"Some agencies will tell us they will go 
  to business parking lots. Others say it's private property," Jacildone 
  said.

"We would also like to see more language about access aisles," 
  she said.

Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated 
  spaces. That aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and 
  out of their wheelchair or scooter.

Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or 
  jco...@postandcourier.com.





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