Yes, I have taken to parking defensively.  Nonetheless, when I see people 
parking over the yellow lines, I will take the time (as nicely as possible) to 
educate them.  Some people don't mind my imposition, some actually thank me, 
but the majority get angry, defensive and dismissive.  I don't mind, though.  I 
accept and embrace my role as The Angry Crip (aka, the grouchy guy in a 
wheelchair).  I have to believe it helps, even if only a little.  Its a tough 
job, but somebody's gotta do it. 8-)




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From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:46:10 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators


I have a side entry van and deal with violators parking in the hash lines as 
well. I purchased a magnetic sign that says,  please do not block the 
wheelchair lift, I attach this when I think I will b blocked. This sometimes 
isnt enough so Ill pull in the spot diagonal and take up a small portion of the 
front hash. If I find no handicap spots available and go towards the back and 
take up two spots. The police are lil help and talking to people will get you 
called an angry cripple .What it comes down to is people dont respect handicap 
spots because police seldom enforce handicap violations. If your gonna drve a 
side entry van all I can say is you have to anticipate a prob and be proactive. 
It sucks, but will get better over time.
 
Ron c7

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, dav...@aol.com <dav...@aol.com> wrote:

From: dav...@aol.com <dav...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r...@sockets.com, wheelch...@aol.com, kkba...@yahoo.com, 
ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:57 PM


It's pretty tough to 'train' some people.  There a few groups who firmly 
believe the rest of us 'owe' them something usually because we have something 
they don't.   My 6 year old grand daughter firmly believes that if I give her 
one thing and her step sister the exact same thing,  that's not fair.   These 
feelings of what's fair have deep seeded roots for sure.
Check my observances --> HC  Parking in Glendale AZ 
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In a message dated 1/19/2009 3:08:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
kult...@yahoo.com writes:
Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, "don't get me 
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).  Another guy 
with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually 
said, "you handicapped people think you're so special."  I could go on.  I was 
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in 
return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects the type of people that 
would park in a space that clearly isn't one.




________________________________
 From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the National 
Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
 
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/

Bill targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009


Special Section:
Watchdog

People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in the 
striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds over who 
is responsible for catching violators.

"There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking in 
spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to," said 
Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.

Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats, introduced 
a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of acquiring a 
placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation twice, but the 
bill stalled in the House both times, Sheheen said.

Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic chapter of the 
National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record keeping is part of the problem.

"There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the physician who 
writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.

A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor Vehicles does 
not record physicians' information, leaving no way to check whether a physician 
actually filled out the form. The bill would connect those dots with a form 
that will stay on file with the DMV.

The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability.

"The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis because they 
may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many people with MS suffer 
fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.

And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the placard with an 
identification card, which law enforcement personnel could look at and match.

Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to see more 
clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for enforcement.

"Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots. Others say 
it's private property," Jacildone said.

"We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said.

Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces. That aisle 
is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and out of their 
wheelchair or scooter.

Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or jco...@postandcourier.com.






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