I Meant.
Don't, trust me. (the comma missing makes it sound quite different).

Jim


On 11/06/2010 15:49, geoff ward wrote:
Yes it is sealed, I would have attempted to adjust the angle of the metal lever that the grub screw comes into contact with, naughty I know!
Geoff.

On 11 June 2010 15:46, geoff ward <carole.ge...@gmail.com <mailto:carole.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Jim,
    It is the throttle body from the plastic manifold with its
    existing TPS.
    The main thing about all this is i just cannot understand why it
    all runs perfectly when first started. Even after being left to
    tick over (approx' 900rpm) for 20 Min's it only goes wrong when
    you actually take it for a drive, when straight away it wont idle
    anymore, very frustrating!
    Geoff.

    On 11 June 2010 15:34, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info
    <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

        As test, if you still have the other throttle body from the
        plastic manifold with the throttle pot on it.
        Plug the throttle pot connector into the other throttle body,
        just leave it sitting on top of the engine and try running it.
        It won't rev properly as the ecu won't see the throttle
        position change but it will have the correct idle reading so
        should idle ok.

        Jim



        On 11/06/2010 15:21, geoff ward wrote:
        Hi Jim,
        It all looks fine, no sign of any damage or tampering.
        When I say just before it hits the stop, it is no more than
        1mm at the most between the end of the little grub screw and
        the stop. I would be more worried if the stop hit before the
        butter fly completely closed as this would cause air to leak
        by would it not.
        Regards Geoff.

        On 11 June 2010 15:10, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info
        <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

            That doesn't sound quite right, the stop should hit
            before the butterfly hits the side.
            Any sign that somebody has adjusted the throttle stop or
            bent the stop arm ?

            Jim



            On 11/06/2010 14:41, geoff ward wrote:
            Been out side this afternoon and checked the butterfly.
            It is completely closed just before the stop is reached.
            Regards, Geoff.

            On 11 June 2010 08:49, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info
            <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

                The injector to manifold seals aren't O rings, they
                are about 15mm dia made of silicone rubber and fit
                into holes on the manifold.
                The ends of the injectors then locate into those.
                I'm sure the plastic inlet manifold and metal
                manifold have different seals which is why i'm
                wondering which ones you ended up with.
                They can also leak if reused, we had that on
                Matthews car which we found using the hose.

                The charcol canister is under the boot floor but the
                solenoid is at the rear of the engine bay attached
                via a vacumn hose.

                Jim



                On 10/06/2010 22:36, geoff ward wrote:
                Hi Jim,
                Nothing to report I am afraid. The one thing I was
                supposed to do, check that the throttle butterfly
                closes completely, I have not had the opportunity
                to do. I have had my first few days back at work
                and it has been to wet in the evenings. Steve must
                be very busy at work because he has not found time
                to reply to your previous posting. I will do my
                best to answer your questions.
                If the seals you refer to are small round rubber O
                rings, I do remember them being in place.
                We used red gasket sealant because we reused the
                old gaskets from the aluminium manifold or in one
                case cut a new one from gasket paper, and thought
                it would be best to use the sealant as well.
                Did not check this valve, I think, but engine was
                working OK when in the Escort.
                Don't recall this canister or the solenoid on the
                manifold when we stripped the Escort.
                Regards, Geoff.

                On 10 June 2010 10:01, Jim Hearne
                <j...@quantums.info <mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

                    Any progress ?


                    Jim




                    On 07/06/2010 10:19, geoff ward wrote:
                    Hi all and thanks again for all the helpful
                    suggestions.
                    Steve and I have checked and double checked
                    through all that has been suggested, every
                    thing seems to work as it should individually.
                    The idle speed control vale has been
                    thoroughly cleaned again and checked to see
                    that it works, then refitted with a new
                    gasket and that it receives input,
                    electronically, from its plug. Steve has
                    checked all the connections with his testing
                    equipment, it's all beyond me!, and it all
                    works. We have reset the ECU yet again,
                    despite spending all day Saturday trying to
                    get it to run properly, it still has the same
                    problem.
                    Thank you Steve for all the time and effort
                    you have put in so far to try and fix it.
                    So if any of you have any further suggestions,
                    we would be pleased to hear them, as Carole
                    and I are getting worried now, with only one
                    weekend to go before we head to Scotland.
                    Yours hopefully Geoff.

                    On 1 June 2010 22:59, geoff ward
                    <carole.ge...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:carole.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                        Thank you to all for your help and advice,
                        I will do a bit more checking and cleaning
                        of contacts etc  tomorrow. The strangest
                        thing,as Steve mentioned in his original
                        post, is that the engine idles perfectly
                        at around 900 - 1000 rpm (according to the
                        XR2 rev counter) when you first start it
                        up. I have followed the method for
                        resetting the ECU 4 times know and it has
                        had good idle speed every time for the
                        first stage of the reset, ie allow to idle
                        for 10 -15 mins (DO NOT TOUCH THE
                        THROTTLE) it only goes all wrong after
                        that! As soon as you start to drive it,
                        that's when it wont idle properly anymore.
                        Carole say thank you all.
                        Regards, Geoff.
                        On 1 June 2010 12:29, Steve Kodz
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                            We're getting a very bad idle with the
                            Zetec in Carole's 2+2.  With the idle
                            speed control valve connected from
                            cold it will idle nicely at around
                            1000rpm, if just left to idle and warm
                            through.  However if you rev, or
                            drive that car the best idle to can
                            get is between 2-3,000 rpm, which isn't
                            great :(  The car also drives badly,
                            having hesitation and then you fight
                            the engine on the over run.

                            It is a lot better with the ISCV
                            disconnected, but still not great.  The
                            idle is still a bit high, being around
                            1,200 rpm and it still doesn't drive
                            that great.

                            We've tried resetting the ECU to
                            re-program it and Geoff's cleaned all the
                            electrical contact and the ISCV.  Any
                            ideas what else needs to be done to
                            get this ready before the HHII?

                            Regards,
                            Steve
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