I would think it's quite possible that the bulkhead is different shape
on each side and that the frame has been made to fit that.
Fibreglass bodys seem to be an inexact science.
This could quite easily be the reason the wheel appears to stick out
more on one side that the other, not because of the suspension geometry
but differences in the bodywork.
I would never measure anything on a kit car from the body, you need some
sort of references from the suspension mountings themselves.
I had my 2+2 measured on a full (camber, caster and tracking, front and
rear) wheel alignment check as have several other owners, and nothing
was inconsistent one side to the other.
The only thing people often change is the front camber if the car has
been lowered as mine has.
This is easily done with camber adjusting bolts on the bottom shock mount.
Jim
On 03/09/2010 22:57, jin wrote:
your findings do coincide with my suspicion on my own car that the
passenger side front wheel is sticking out further than the other
side, I wonder if this can be corrected?
On 2 Sep, 18:25, barnacle<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, the inner mount points of the track arms - the frame (on mine,
#359) on the nearside is about a centimetre further forward relative
to the bulkhead. I was a little surprised by this, to be sure, but I
can't help but assume that Quantum would be building the frame on a
jig, so it certainly seems intentional. There's no vertical
displacement - but I note that the nearside tie bar pickup is further
outboard of the chassis frame, presumably to allow the mounting block
to clear the gearbox subframe. The offside tie bar is mounted further
inboard of the frame corner.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/nailed_barnacle/Quantum%20engi...
is the offside bar, with the CVH engine
fitted.http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/nailed_barnacle/Quantum%20engi...
is the nearside.
Neil
On 27 Aug, 21:54, jin<[email protected]> wrote:
when I stripped my front suspension down a few months ago I measured
on a surface plate with a vernier height gauge both the arms with the
ball joint attached due to my previous concerns regarding the front
suspension angles and have concluded that they are both identical.
however I think barnacle may have been referring to the inner track
arm mounts on the Quantum chassis being different?.... I think.
On 27 Aug, 11:04, Jim Hearne<[email protected]> wrote:
I think the front tie bar mount is in a different place on each side
(on the CVH engined cars) and the tie bar (solid steel bar) is
correspondingly different.
But I don't believe that the track control arm (the U shaped pressed
arm) is different side to side (apart from being a mirror image) or that
the rear track control arm mount should be different side to side.
Jim
On 27/08/2010 06:44, jin wrote:
cheers barnacle
I had suspicions about the suspension,
is it really meant to be different both sides? is the fiesta?
can it be corrected?
I saw some of your photos in the latest mag, looks like a top project
there mat well done
On 26 Aug, 22:26, barnacle<[email protected]> wrote:
Don't forget that the suspension geometry is different on either side.
On my Fiat 20vt I've had to move the pickup point outwards from the
default position, and have the tie bar bent to suit (due to important
lumps of engine getting in the
way):http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/nailed_barnacle/Quantum%20engi......
I suspect there's a certain range of adjustment which won't materially
affect the handling. Even the swing arm pickups are in different
places on each side.
Neil
On 25 Aug, 18:19, jin<[email protected]> wrote:
I think your right Jim
if I had a spare alternator id check that out
as for the offer of one that would be very nice of you, ive somebody
who is looking for me at present but if that proved unsuccessful ill
take you up on that offer thank you
personally id like to keep the non xr2 tie bars to keep things even
since the longer xr2 tie bar moves the fulcrum forwards and moves the
bar through a slightly different arc, I know its not much but im
rather fussy
im sure I could adapt the alternator to sit slightly higher and pivot
further forwards and use a longer belt
ill give it some thought
thank you for your replies
On 25 Aug, 09:50, Jim Hearne<[email protected]> wrote:
I think it was only changed to clear the alternator on the CVH, not
the sump.
If you are really stuck i may be able to find one in my collection but
it will probably be a bit rusty.
Did you find the CVH front bracket ?
Jim
On 25/08/2010 07:43, jin wrote:
hi all
since it would appear finding an XR2 tie bar is more difficult than
trying to locate a toothed hen riding a flatulent rocking horse I
thought id look elsewhere.....
I became convinced that the standard tie bar may fit around the sump
since there seemed enough space, so last night I loosely located one
up just to see
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/?action=viewt=D...
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/?action=viewt=D...
it looks far enough away from the sump to me and there even looks
enough clearance for the alternator with at worse a new tensioning
bracket?
so does anybody have any knowledge of this?
im eagerly awaiting your opinions
and for good measure, hers a photo of the engine going in
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/?action=viewt=D...
and here its in
http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/?action=viewt=D...
so i am making some sort of progress at least.
cheers
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