Whilst i think the idea of making QC open source could be great i do wonder if there is a large enough community of developers with the impetus and skills to fix and maintain Quartz Composer to a usable standard?
-- Jim Warrier Audio Visual Performer destroythingsbeautiful.com (http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/) | www.modulate.org.uk (http://www.modulate.org.uk/) On Friday, 21 November 2014 at 11:29, Joe Rickerby wrote: > I think open-sourcing is the only chance QC has at this point. > > But I think the prospect of Apple open sourcing QC is complicated by the fact > the QuartzComposer framework is embedded into Quartz. This means there are > apps out there that are using classes like QCRenderer, QCView to implement > graphics. > > If Apple open-sources QC, they have a choice between deprecating the QC > classes (breaking third party apps) or bundling code that comes from an open > source project they don’t entirely control. > > Joe > > On 21 Nov 2014, at 8:35 am, Dan Gregor <danin...@gmail.com > > (mailto:danin...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > oh no, i can't still believe this, such a shame! there isn't any software > > on a market with a same good potential as QC had. QC should be a future. > > shame on apple, shame on all apple managers! > > what about Chris Wright, can't he push apple to make QC as a open source? > > what would be the price for QC source code? > > very sad.. > > Dan Gregor > > > > > > > > 2014-11-21 5:41 GMT+01:00 Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com > > (mailto:usefuldesign...@gmail.com)>: > > > Maybe some can start a crowdfunded community campaign to get Apple (and > > > other large software companies) to Open Source EOL software that wont > > > unduly compete with their existing products? > > > > > > Not for me I have no time but can't see Apple resisting a Green My Apple > > > scale campaign for too long… they're sitting on more cash assets than > > > most nations in the world today, think of the good they could do and > > > brownie points they would score. > > > > > > > > > On 21 Nov 2014, at 11:13 am, Juan Madrigal <jua...@mac.com > > > (mailto:jua...@mac.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > They should have open sourced Final Cut Server, Shake and Color when > > > > they EOL'D them but they didn't. > > > > > > > > Great software that's collecting dust. > > > > > > > > It's sad. > > > > > > > > -Juan > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com > > > > (mailto:rm...@latencyzero.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I certainly don't want to see it go, and I don't want to use > > > >> cross-platform apps. They universally suck. > > > >> > > > >> If Apple won't continue to support QC, perhaps they should open source > > > >> it instead. > > > >> > > > >>> On Nov 20, 2014, at 15:50 , Jim <kurb...@gmail.com > > > >>> (mailto:kurb...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Quartz Composer bugs being closed. I see some my oldest Quartz > > > >>> Composer bugs are being closed with the message > > > >>> > > > >>> "Apple Developer Relations 20-Nov-2014 08:01 PM > > > >>> > > > >>> Engineering has determined that there are no plans to address this > > > >>> issue. > > > >>> > > > >>> We are now closing this bug report” > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> This implies that Quartz composer will no longer receive fixes for > > > >>> long standing bugs despite its continued use in many high profile > > > >>> live shows and deep integration with real time video apps. > > > >>> > > > >>> Quartz Composer still maintains a very active community. > > > >>> > > > >>> One of the most common issues with qc is using OpenCI and using > > > >>> meshes. In the past year i have worked on or am aware of shows > > > >>> created for some of the highest profile musicians in the world yet > > > >>> this application is still being neglected and left to fade into > > > >>> obscurity by Apple. With the resouces that apple have at its disposal > > > >>> a enginner could easily be assigned to maintain Quartz Composer to a > > > >>> more usable standard. > > > >>> > > > >>> I can see a large portion of the Quartz Composer user base > > > >>> transitioning to Max 7 or Vuo over the next few years. Given both > > > >>> those applications play nicely on multi OS this could lose Apple a > > > >>> large part of its creative user base which would be a shame to see > > > >>> happen > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> > > > >>> Jim Warrier > > > >>> > > > >>> Audio Visual Performer > > > >>> > > > >>> destroythingsbeautiful.com (http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/) | > > > >>> www.modulate.org.uk (http://www.modulate.org.uk/) > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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