it will be the same as u r suggestion to the user to install debian and whonix,
it should be suggested to him as well fedora full version.
so by that the default situation is:-
- Dom0
- fedora-minimal with only essential things installed to run Qubes OS
- sys-net
- sys-firewall
additional installation OS:-
- fedora
- debian
- whonix
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, <> tnt_bom_...@keemail.me> > wrote:
>> hi there,
>>
>> i was wondering why fedora-minimal is not the default template for Qubes
>> instead of fedora all apps installed (full version) ???
>>
>> using minimal over full has advantages:-
>>
>> ...
>
> An operating system should be useful by default. We are not arch or
> slackware or gentoo, our users expect to be able to get work done
> without first opening a terminal and typing:
> sudo dnf install ${basic stuff that everybody will always install anyway}.
>
> ... and then wondering why they need to do it each time they reboot,
> because they don't yet understand how templates work.
>
> So, since there is a compelling reason to have the full fedora-xx
> template installed by default, the overall install is actually smaller
> if we simply point all VMs at the fedora template, rather than having
> an additional one installed. Extra disk space would be used by
> additionally installing fedora-xx-minimal, and the runtime resource
> constraints are not that different.
>
> Empirically I observe that sys-{firewall,net,usb} sit at ~300mb ram
> (the initial default) regardless of template.
>
> That said, I sympathize with the argument that inexperienced users are
> likely to eventually install arbitrary crap of dubious origin in their
> one-and-only template (full fedora-xx), and it is desirable to avoid
> that also compromising sys-*, so perhaps making it an *additional*
> template (but not the default template as you suggest) has merit. The
> question then is whether or not the benefits justify growing the
> installer by another gb.
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