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On 2016-07-13 15:03, Cannon wrote:
> On 07/12/2016 11:16 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> Please see this FAQ entry:
>> 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/user-faq/#i-created-a-usbvm-and-assigned- 
>> usb-controllers-to-it-now-the-usbvm-wont-boot
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the link. Yes it is a USB 3.0 device, I wonder why it is not
> working with sys-usb after restore from backup, although it did before I
> deleted sys-usb?
> 

Even after settings pci_strictreset to false? Please clarify what you mean by
"not working."

> I am trying to understand the pci_strict reset cons/pros of disabling it? 
> When it states "because there will be no way to reset device state after VM
> shutdown, so the device could attack next VM to which it will be assigned."
> What does this mean?

The idea is that a compromised VM might compromise the device. You then detach
the compromised device from that VM and attach it to a different VM. The
device compromises the second VM.

If the device could be reset in between detaching it from the first VM and
attaching it to the second VM, there would be a significantly lower
probability that the second VM would be compromised.

> Does this mean even if untrusted device is unplugged, then trusted device
> plugged in the untrusted device could still affect the VM?

Yes, but for a different reason. A compromised device could compromise the VM
to which it is attached. The compromised VM could then compromise any other
devices subsequently attached to that VM.

> If I disable pci_strict reset does this make dom0 vulnerable?
> 

No, because by default USB controllers are not automatically returned to dom0
after being assigned to a domU. You'd have to do that manually (in which case
you would indeed be putting dom0 at risk).

See the FAQ entry immediately after the previous one:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/user-faq/#i-assigned-a-pci-device-to-a-qube-
then-unassigned-itshut-down-the-qube`-why-isnt-the-device-available-in-dom0

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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