*Hi Andrew,*
*See my comments below:*

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Andrew David Wong <a...@qubes-os.org>
wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> (Please keep the list CCed.)
>

*Ok.  I thought that was automatically happening.  I guess it was not.  I
will cc qubes-users@googlegroups.com <qubes-users@googlegroups.com> in
future correspondence.*

>
> On 2016-12-14 08:17, explodingbee . wrote:
> > *Hi Andrew Wong,* *See my comments below.*
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Andrew David Wong
> > <a...@qubes-os.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2016-12-13 18:29, explodingbee . wrote:
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) *In Qubes the computer often gets slow as molasses.*  I
> >>>> get error messages saying "Warning: unresponsive script"
> >>>> sometimes. When I try to open a VM it says that there is not
> >>>> enough memory and that I should close a VM first.  When the
> >>>> computer gets like this sometimes I click on things and
> >>>> nothing happens or it takes forever for something to happen;
> >>>> sometimes I can't even close windows because they don't
> >>>> respond.  (I am using an HP Elitebook 8540w laptop.  It has
> >>>> 4 GB of RAM and an i7 CPU.)  Also, when I shut down the
> >>>> computer sometimes it gets stuck and does not shut down all
> >>>> the way.  It freezes with the Qubes splash screen there and
> >>>> the progress bar indicating partial or complete progress.
> >>>>
> >
> > I think this is just due to a lack of RAM. 4 GB is the bare
> > minimum. Any chance you can add some more?
> >
> >
> >> *I have not had any problems with lack of RAM in Windows 7. Maybe
> >> Qubes needs more RAM than Windows 7?  If you are correct I can
> >> certainly get more RAM.  After I reinstall Qubes if the problem
> >> persists I may get more RAM.*
> >
>
> Yes. Windows 7 requires a minimum of 1 GB for 32-bit and 2 GB for
> 64-bit, whereas Qubes requires a minimum of 4 GB (and is available
> only as a 64-bit operating system). Take a look at our system
> requirements:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/system-requirements/


*Yes, I see that 4 Gb is the minimum RAM requirement.  I suspect though
that there may have been some problem with the Qubes installation file
which was causing this issue.  But if the problem persists after I
reinstall Qubes I can get more RAM.*

>
>
> >
> >>>> 3) *Problem relating to program installation:*  When I
> >>>> install programs in the Fedora or Debian templates they
> >>>> don't appear in the list of available programs in the
> >>>> templates or in the VMs based on those templates so I don't
> >>>> see how I can create shortcuts for programs in my VMs.
> >>>>
> >
> > Are you installing these programs from the Fedora and Debian
> > repos? If so, are you fully shutting down the template after
> > installing the program? This should trigger qvm-sync-appmenus, but
> > you can try to run it manually from dom0:
> >
> > qvm-sync-appmenus <templatevm-name>
> >
> >
> >> *Yes, I was installing from within the Fedora VM (which is what
> >> I think you mean).  Yes, I fully shut everything down, including
> >> the whole computer, after installing the programs and then at no
> >> time did the installed programs appear on the list of available
> >> programs in the Fedora VM or in the AppVMs.  If the problem
> >> persists after I reinstall Qubes I may try to manually enter the
> >> phrase you provided above.*
> >
>
> How were you installing them? Were you using a command like `sudo dnf
> install <program-name>` in a Fedora TemplateVM, or were you installing
> them in some other way, instead?
>

*I was installing programs by going to the "software" link in the Fedora
domain and then clicking around until I found the video or other program I
wanted and then clicking on "install."  I did not use any command lines.*

>
> In any case, in order to have a menu entry, there has to be an
> appropriate .desktop file for the program. You can write one yourself
> if necessary, but usually programs installed through a package manager
> like dnf or apt-get do this for you.
>
> >
> >>>> 4) *Problem in getting a video player to work:*  I have
> >>>> installed four different video players (Snappy, Budgie,
> >>>> Banshee and Parole) and none of them seem to be able to play
> >>>> videos I have downloaded (with Video Download Helper and
> >>>> Firefox in an App VM).  (I can get the video players to
> >>>> launch not with the proper shortcuts but in another, awkward
> >>>> way, by going to Domain: personal -> personal: Software and
> >>>> then clicking around until I get to the right app which was
> >>>> previously installed and then clicking on "launch.") Also,
> >>>> the default player, apparently called "Videos," doesn't work.
> >>>> Am I missing something here?
> >>>>
> >
> > I haven't had any problems with VLC. I'd recommend giving that a
> > try, if you're willing. You can easily enable the RPMFusion repos
> > to get it:
> >
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-vm/#rpmfusion-for-a-
> > fedora-templatevm
> >
> >
> >> *I have also used VLC before in Windows and I liked it.  It is a
> >> video player which can play almost any type of video file.
> >> After I reinstall Qubes if I am still having video problems I
> >> will probably try to install it.  Thanks for sending the page to
> >> help with that.*
> >
>
> You're very welcome!
>
> >
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> 5) *I can't update Fedora:*  I have tried to update Fedora
> >>>> 23 to Fedora 25.  I am able to download the update but then
> >>>> I click "Install" and nothing happens.  I also click
> >>>> "restart and install" just below that and again nothing
> >>>> happens.  What is going on with that?  (I just tried that
> >>>> again and I got the following error message this time:
> >>>> *"Sorry this did not work  Upgrade to Fedora failed.  Details
> >>>> Detailed errors from the package manager follow:**  Error
> >>>> running transaction: installing package
> >>>> filesystem-3.2-37.fc24.x86_64 needs 135168 on the /rw
> >>>> filesystem")*
> >>>>
> >
> > Instead of trying to upgrade to Fedora 25, I'd recommend upgrading
> > to Fedora 24 for now (unless you specifically require 25 for some
> > reason). Fedora 24 templates are supported (assuming you're running
> > Qubes 3.2), whereas Fedora 25 is not yet supported:
> >
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
> >
> > Here are instructions on upgrading an existing Fedora 23 template
> > to Fedora 24:
> >
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
> >
> > If you just want a fresh Fedora 24 template, it's much easier:
> >
> > $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-24
> >
> >
> >> *Thanks.  I don't even know Fedora very well at all.  So I have
> >> no problem with trying Fedora 24 instead of Fedora 25.  I think
> >> I will try that after I reinstall Qubes.*
> >
>
> Sounds good.
>
> >
> >>>> So I am frustrated.  I had a whole life on Windows 7 and now
> >>>> I can't do most of what I used to do.  (Do you think that
> >>>> maybe I downloaded and installed a bad copy of Qubes?)  Help
> >>>> would be appreciated.
> >>>>
> >
> > You really should verify the ISO before installing from it:
> >
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/verifying-signatures/
> >
> >
> >> *I did read that I was supposed to do that before I installed
> >> Qubes.  But I am coming from a Windows environment.  There
> >> seemed to be a number of concepts and terms used in that page
> >> that you provided (which I previously read) that I did not
> >> understand. For example, where do I type that text? If I am in
> >> Windows does that go into a DOS prompt window?   Also, I am
> >> supposed to import a key with GPG?  I had never heard of GPG
> >> before and I did know what I was importing the key into.  But I
> >> guess that now, seeing the problems I had (at least some of which
> >> may be due to a bad installation file of Qubes) I guess I will
> >> spend the time and try to figure out how to understand that page
> >> and verify the signature of the file.  *
> >
>
> Yes, I understand that it can be challenging when all of this is new.
> There are guides out there on how to verify PGP signatures in Windows.
> If your immediate concern is checking whether the ISO you downloaded
> is corrupt or not, though, you can just check the hash values first
> (MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256, or SHA-512). This should be much easier, and
> there are many Windows tools available for computing these values:
>
> http://superuser.com/q/245775




*Ok.  I can look at this when I get back from my trip and try to reinstall
Qubes.*
*Also, I just realized that I may have the same problem again when I
reinstall Qubes; I don't want it to change the GRUB file so that again I
can only go into Qubes and not Windows 7.  I guess I will have to study
this page [https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/
<https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/>] to try to not have that problem
repeat.*

>
>
> - --
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
> iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUXRVAAoJENtN07w5UDAwRuEQAIK1PziCoWmYUsNGz1yHmJGz
> 3ka4ZT+B2nx1BvOuy7HPF8hnxZ5Zd9zaPiTn/cqA1lbmepINOgQsXyfVj3BXcFFD
> y2T2QRbwyFNRRg/Qe8CjD/DyIL/EbeHv9nt2G/4Cx2SGoq+8BkYnl0xTdFfUo11E
> 1qvhVQgjM9kJBqVvCbXBY0ij0WMr/Aj5qcBjVv57DSkBDD31K8vRwugANUp5C7Dv
> oNWQ8IZYfBcVWOT+7gNVOSZ4yhZMApx9NBwAoGIn8ipfxSOzQapmxieabmo4Kn5+
> elNhLuEah0blEqVG6Rt8nVwB24XE+ILvOrzb1XvlLqwCAWRNRhXyYkzcBYKr5erY
> 84twddR9ES+52Wgkma2HzZMB70jPJxCLQOBldx9G/Ue7MHtMM6d+xft8yC/G3zuf
> 4KGJNtOgqFuNHhakHG12VXVY/TtaLPeaj7VKnDEkywBO0CDfs8D/LxpvomvCEPPw
> 1JHHDuUNH10n9A04aSbOogpNqyPgFJpYQLigCWTO5LrKs8jWtv1WhtjaS+rykJP+
> uEbpOKm7Tgcz8ds2Kr1mDsy3Rq1toUqSFKFzzy0baSxR2Mu15llB1jddKOd6+knl
> 1bm+pcpr0rZcreo5Tdv25gBS/P+ZXduZFXcW2ozEdz1c00ruBeiFJ3adIo4q4kS2
> m6jIIwQRgyFLw9OFcALS
> =tzkJ
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>


*Thanks again for the help,*


*Regards,*
*Vincent*

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAEgwnuT_7BHQTmVPJ9vEJQHmFoy5-asXSOw%2BrZTp2U%3Dx24Ez7w%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to